Re: [cas-user] Force service to authenticate every time from server side?

2018-11-02 Thread David Curry
Luminis 5 sends you to the /cas/logout page. That might be a configuration option, but it's what ours does. Luminis is currently in "don't touch it and hope it doesn't break before we replace it" status here, so we're stuck with that behavior. -- DAVID A. CURRY, CISSP *DIRECTOR OF INFORMATION SE

Re: [cas-user] Force service to authenticate every time from server side?

2018-11-02 Thread Ray Bon
Luminis' session ending should _not_ send a log out to CAS. Is this still the case? Ray On Fri, 2018-11-02 at 15:05 -0400, David Curry wrote: We already had to turn off SLO because of that issue between tabs (people would log into Luminis in one tab and Canvas in another, and get kicked out of

Re: [cas-user] Force service to authenticate every time from server side?

2018-11-02 Thread David Curry
We already had to turn off SLO because of that issue between tabs (people would log into Luminis in one tab and Canvas in another, and get kicked out of Canvas when Luminis timed out). My position is that this was The Wrong Thing To Do, but the problem is that our CAS 3.x deployment always had it t

Re: [cas-user] Force service to authenticate every time from server side?

2018-11-02 Thread Matthew Uribe
Hi David, FWIW we've been on Banner 9 for a little over a year, and we advise users not to have multiple tabs open. The issue we see is that one tab will "time out" even though the users are actively entering data in another tab. It can be rather frustrating. I'm not sure if your unchecking the

Re: [cas-user] Force service to authenticate every time from server side?

2018-11-02 Thread David Curry
Actually, I think my problem in this case was using mod_auth_cas to test it. Maybe that little cookie cache it has was affecting the results. When we unchecked the "participate in sso" access strategy for the actual application in question (Banner 9), it started behaving the way they wanted. Subj

Re: [cas-user] Force service to authenticate every time from server side?

2018-11-02 Thread Ray Bon
I agree with Christian on this. Cookies exist in a browser instance, not a tab instance; in some cases a new window is still not enough. It sounds like your client does not understand how web browser technology works. You could always offer to build a custom browser ;) Ray On Fri, 2018-11-02 at

Re: [cas-user] Force service to authenticate every time from server side?

2018-11-02 Thread David Curry
Well, If I had my way, we wouldn't be doing it at all. :-) But one of the business units here wants their application to (a) use the "standard" login page provided by the CAS server but (b) prompt for credentials every time you open a tab/window and go to it. "But that's not single sign-on," I say

Re: [cas-user] Force service to authenticate every time from server side?

2018-11-02 Thread Christian Poirier
Hi Dave I think the better way to do this is to open a new instance of your browser application instead of open a new tab. The new tab is in the same context of your first tab and then using the same authentication cookie. If you want CAS as you mention, you lose the essential use of a SSO. If you

Re: [cas-user] Force service to authenticate every time from server side?

2018-11-02 Thread David Curry
Actually, now that you mention it, I'm not. I was using mod_auth_cas to test it, but maybe that's not the best test case. I'll see if I can find another one and "verify" what I'm seeing. Thanks, --Dave -- DAVID A. CURRY, CISSP *DIRECTOR OF INFORMATION SECURITY* INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY 71 FIFTH

Re: [cas-user] Force service to authenticate every time from server side?

2018-11-02 Thread Daniel Ellentuck
Hi David, Are you sure the client application is redirecting the browser back to the CAS login following the initial login to the app? Sounds like it's an issue of controlling the user's application session rather than the user's CAS SSO session. Dan Dan Ellentuck Columbia University I.T.

[cas-user] Force service to authenticate every time from server side?

2018-11-02 Thread David Curry
Can I force a service to authenticate every time from the CAS server side, e.g., by setting something in the service registry? Basically, I want to mimic the behavior of "&renew=true" but not have to change anything on the client side. I thought setting "accessStrategy.ssoEnabled: false" in the se