Re: [casper] (Red Pitaya 125-14) RuntimeError: no programming informs yet. Odd?

2020-02-10 Thread Marc
On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 7:48 AM Lukas Karch wrote: > > > Regarding the setup of the Red Pitaya, i mostly followed the instructions > on this site: > https://casper-toolflow.readthedocs.io/projects/tutorials/en/latest/tutorials/redpitaya/red_pitaya_setup.html. > Only "git clone

Re: [casper] (Red Pitaya 125-14) RuntimeError: no programming informs yet. Odd?

2020-02-10 Thread Lukas Karch
Thank you for the quick response. I tried specifiying the port number but the same error appeared. I tried using the .fpg and python script you suggested and a very similar error message appeared: lukas@lukas-HP-Pavilion-x360-Convertible-15-br1xx:~/Downloads$ python

Re: [casper] Solar Spectrometer Channeliser

2020-02-10 Thread Tavi B
Hi, Thank you for your reply! I would consider LimeSDR or maybe XTRX, it have a GPS onboard and PCI-ex interface. Best regards, Tavi În mar., 11 feb. 2020 la 08:05, Mugundhan vijayaraghavan < v.vaishnav151...@gmail.com> a scris: > Hello Tavi, > > There are implementations of red pitaya as a

Re: [casper] Solar Spectrometer Channeliser

2020-02-10 Thread Mugundhan vijayaraghavan
Hello Tavi, There are implementations of red pitaya as a SDR by Pavel Demin, but the max. bandwidth (that he has implemented) is about 2.5 MHz and also is limited in tuning range. Yes, using SDRs is another option. LimeSDR is a possible candidate which gives tunability and max. instantaneous

Re: [casper] Solar Spectrometer Channeliser

2020-02-10 Thread Tavi B
Hello, Reading this topic I've understand that Red Pitaya cannot tune to any frequency band like a SDR does. From my point of view is not adequate to use as a wide band solar bursts spectrograph. I would use SDR(s) instead, with the radio front end already made. The speed of sweeps is a concern

Re: [casper] Solar Spectrometer Channeliser

2020-02-10 Thread Mugundhan vijayaraghavan
Hi Ross, I agree with what you say. At this point, if one is interested in only a single channel, then Dan's idea of quadrature mixing can be tried out. If one has to use mixers, rather than 60 MHz, depending on the filter's roll off, one may have to settle for slightly smaller bandwidth.

Re: [casper] Solar Spectrometer Channeliser

2020-02-10 Thread Ross Martin
Hi Mugundhan, If you have a single stage mixer with an LO at 80MHz, it has the problem that the effective mixer signal may not be just a sine wave, but instead a sine wave with a tiny DC offset. If you have a DC offset that's X dB down from the sine wave amplitude, it will pass the original

Re: [casper] Solar Spectrometer Channeliser

2020-02-10 Thread Jishnu Nambissan T
Hi Hari, Good point regarding RFI below 25 MHz, though in coming years more and more AM stations may go off air ! It may be hard to find high quality, inexpensive mixers for this application having a very high dynamic range (>60dB). Perhaps Dan's suggestion of using quadrature sampling is a

Re: [casper] Solar Spectrometer Channeliser

2020-02-10 Thread Dan Werthimer
if you only want one input, and you can't build a downconverter that provides the dynamic range, you might want to consider using the two adc's on the board, and implementing a quadrature downconverter, (mix by both 0 and 90 degree LO's and then low pass filter both the in-phase and quadrature

Re: [casper] Solar Spectrometer Channeliser

2020-02-10 Thread Mugundhan vijayaraghavan
Hi Ross, Just to add, we can also have the lo at 80mhz, and use the lower side band. 80 will be at 0, 20 will be at 60. But the band can be flipped offline. We can have a strong lpf at 60mhz, which can cut the lo off before downstream processing. Mugundhan On Mon, 10 Feb 2020, 15:18 Mugundhan

Re: [casper] Solar Spectrometer Channeliser

2020-02-10 Thread Mugundhan vijayaraghavan
Hi Ross, I'm not working with Colm on this. So I don't know about the resources available to him. What you're saying is true. Doing it with a single stage may be problematic as with 20 MHz LO, the there will be overlap of the side bands. So, minimally, we need to have two stages. where the 20-80

Re: [casper] Solar Spectrometer Channeliser

2020-02-10 Thread Ross Martin
Hi Mugundhan, Could you say a little more about how you're downconverting 20-80MHz to 0-60MHz? My understanding is that this is not easy to do while retaining signal quality. The band overlap of the input and output bands means simple conversion methods with normal mixers don't work. Ross On

Re: [casper] Solar Spectrometer Channeliser

2020-02-10 Thread Hariharan Krishnan
Hi Jishnu, Down-conversion is inevitable with red pitaya given the max. sampling frequency is 125 MSPS for the on-board ADC (for the 20 - 80 MHz RF band here). The dynamic range of the mixer used in the down-conversion becomes rather important here primarily because of the RFI channels

Re: [casper] Solar Spectrometer Channeliser

2020-02-10 Thread Mugundhan vijayaraghavan
Sorry Jishnu, I didn't see the mixer question. If the mixer has a poorer dynamic range than the ADC, then the chain's DR is limited by that. So, as far as the mixer's DR is better than a 14 bit ADCs, it should be fine. Mugundhan On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 1:38 PM Mugundhan vijayaraghavan <

Re: [casper] Solar Spectrometer Channeliser

2020-02-10 Thread Mugundhan vijayaraghavan
Hi jishnu, With red pitaya, you have to down convert 20-80 to 0-60 baseband to use the band fully. As such, it has a cutoff at 65MHz. Thanks, Mugundhan On Mon, 10 Feb 2020, 13:30 Jishnu Nambissan T, wrote: > Hi Mugundhan, > > With red pitaya, can you sample 20-80 MHz without downconversion ?

Re: [casper] Solar Spectrometer Channeliser

2020-02-10 Thread Jishnu Nambissan T
Hi Mugundhan, With red pitaya, can you sample 20-80 MHz without downconversion ? And if analog down conversion is required, wouldn't that restrict the usable dynamic range (unless a high level mixer is used) ? Jishnu From: "Mugundhan vijayaraghavan" To: "casper" Sent: Thursday,