Hi Heystek, I think it better if you used 20.04. Is the first machine (18.04) the one that crashes and that when you have had Matlab working that comes from your second machine (20.04)?
I just did some tests and was able to reproduce your issue with generating the dtbo. In your xilinx device tree repo, checkout the `xlnx_rel_v2021.1` branch. This is not in the "Getting Started with RFSoC” guide, and now needs to be. We will need to make sure to get this change documented. Additionally, I also now realize that mlib_devel `m2021a` branch will not work with the most recent tutorials that were recently updated for new changes that fixes a slew of issues with the rfdc yellow block. This is because those changes are in the `m2021a-dev` branch of mlib_devel and yet to be merged into `m2021a`. Hopefully we can do that soon. But, for now, please be sure to also checkout the `m2021a-dev` branch of your mlib_devel repo before moving into the subsequent tutorials that use the rfdc (the adc interface and spectrometer tutorials). Best, Mitch On Nov 1, 2023, at 4:33 AM, Heystek Grobler <heystekgrob...@gmail.com> wrote: Hey Mitch and everyone. Thank you so much for the help! I really appreciate it! I am trying to set up the toolflow on two machines. The first machine is: Ubuntu 18.04 LTS Vitis/Vivado 2021.1 The second machine: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS Vitis/Vivado 2021.1 I am currently busy with the setup on the first machine (Ubuntu 18.04) since the second machine is having issues regarding the university firewall. If needed I can update the first machine to Ubuntu 20.04. I downloaded the Xilinx device tree repo by making use of (I assume it is the current master branch commit1a5881d<https://github.com/Xilinx/device-tree-xlnx/commit/1a5881d00406fa4f68eee63064799b8e5b28a41a>): git clone https://github.com/xilinx/device-tree-xlnx.git Below are screenshots of the Matlab crash at startup: <Screenshot 2023-11-01 at 12.31.04.png> Here is the log file: <Screenshot 2023-11-01 at 12.31.35.png> <Screenshot 2023-11-01 at 12.31.42.png> Thank you for all the help! Heystek --------------------------------------------------------- Heystek Grobler 0832721009 heystekgrob...@gmail.com On Tuesday, Oct 31, 2023 at 10:30 PM, Mitchell Burnett <mitch.c.burn...@gmail.com<mailto:mitch.c.burn...@gmail.com>> wrote: Heystek, Matlab crashing: You had said earlier that you were on Ubuntu 20.04? Is this still the case? Toolflow error: Can you send me the commit hash for your current head of the Xilinx device tree repo? Mitch On Oct 31, 2023, at 1:52 PM, Heystek Grobler <heystekgrob...@gmail.com> wrote: Hey Kaj, Mitch, Morag and everyone. Thank you for the help! I really appreciate it. I have changed my startsg.local file and it fits in with your suggestions. I get new errors now. The first one is Matlab sometimes crashes at startup with: Abnormal termination: Segmentation violation <Screenshot 2023-10-31 at 21.19.34.png> When Matlab decided to work again, and I compiled the first tutorial, then I got this error: “hsi::generate_target -dir $jdts_dir" <Screenshot 2023-10-31 at 20.52.47.png> <Screenshot 2023-10-31 at 20.52.56.png> Has anyone stumbled onto these problems? Thank you for the help. Heystek --------------------------------------------------------- Heystek Grobler 0832721009 heystekgrob...@gmail.com<mailto:heystekgrob...@gmail.com> On Tuesday, Oct 31, 2023 at 9:23 AM, Morag Brown <mbr...@sarao.ac.za<mailto:mbr...@sarao.ac.za>> wrote: Hi Heystek, Mitch, all, The System Generator hanging issue occasionally still happens to me too (but very rarely). However, it happened to me with every compile at one time when I had a version of MATLAB installed that had many other toolboxes installed. There is a note here<https://casper-toolflow.readthedocs.io/en/latest/src/How-to-install-Matlab.html#current-vivado-flow-how-to-install-r2021a> under step 5 of "How to install MATLAB" in the CASPER ReadTheDocs instructions that says toolbox clashes have been tentatively accepted as the cause for this problem. There is also a link to a Xilinx AMD blog post where if you click on "more answers" at the bottom, you will see a list of MATLAB toolboxes that someone else determined as being compatible with System Generator. If your SysGen hanging issue happens with every compile, then check your MATLAB toolboxes against this list and uninstall any not listed. Or if you don't need any specific toolboxes, then just ensure that you have only the ones required by the CASPER tools installed (i.e. the ones Mitch has listed, that are also listed in the link I have provided above). I've not encountered the "std::exception error", but that's only because I'm still using 18.04 and not 20.04 - the guide that Mitch has pointed you to in the Xilinx AMD docs should hopefully fix that. One last thing - in order to be mindful of any one person's inbox, I'd recommend that you send your replies on a thread to the mailing list rather than a specific person. This way anyone else who has encountered these issues may provide guidance, and anyone who might encounter these issues in the future will be able to find the thread in the mailing list archive. Morag On Tue, 31 Oct 2023, 07:17 Mitch Burnett, <mitch.burn...@byu.edu<mailto:mitch.burn...@byu.edu>> wrote: Hi Heystek, One thing first, then the hang issue. From your screenshot of your startsg.local I notice that you need to add an additional env variable to the Xilinx device tree repo, and that you need to change the back end env variable form vivado to Vitis. Please compare your startsg.local file to the one shown in Getting Started With RFSoC<https://github.com/casper-astro/tutorials_devel/blob/main/docs/tutorials/rfsoc/tut_getting_started.md#toolflow-setup> tutorial. Now your remaining issue… Unfortunately, System Generator hanging like this is a known issue but I am not aware of if we know of the cause. I believe the best known explanation for this this that is a race condition between System Generator and Simulink where the return from System Generator is not received by the main Simulink process and results in the hang. This phenomena occasionally happens to me, but seldomly. However, here is more info for you that if you have not done the following during your setup this may be something else you want to pay attention to. At one time folks at SARAO had reported that with every attempted build this issue would occur. I recall that we determined the issue was a mix of a few things: 1) before installing Vitis/Model Composer the symbolic links in the the Xilinx Model Composer installation guide<https://docs.xilinx.com/r/2021.2-English/ug1483-model-composer-sys-gen-user-guide/Supported-MATLAB-Versions-and-Operating-Systems> needed to be completed. The instructions mention either installing gcc6 or creating the symbolic links mentioned in that previous link. I have only ever done the symbolic link approach. Mugundhan recently reported here that this seemed to remove the "std::exception error" when starting system generator. 2) In addition to this gcc nuance, this didn’t seem to be enough and we found (through anecdotal evidence) that the hanging was also related to additional matlab add-on toolboxes that were installed but not required. Because of this, it is recommended to only install the following toolboxes when installing matlab: Simulink, Communications toolbox, DSP System toolbox, Fixed-Point Designer toolbox, Signal Processing toolbox. I want to recall that it was the Matlab or Simulink SDK toolbox that when installed interfere with the operation of Matlab. Dealing with this hanging issue is heuristic. I am not aware of a full solution. Even with all this, when this happens to me (again seldom… but does happen) I click the “cancel” button that appears on the bottom of the model window (the window where the model canvas containing the blocks are placed — there is a status bar for the model generation status and the cancel button is next to that) then I spam ctrl-c inside the terminal where I ran `./startsg starts.local`. This will usually trigger the interrupt caught by System Generator and closes the System Generator Compilation status with control returning back to Matlab (I have access to the command prompt that now reports a nonsensical error) and I can then rerun `jasper`. I can think of a handful of times where the interrupt is not caught and just have to close Matlab entirely and start fresh (I have never lost a model file or saved progress when this happens). Best, Mitch On Oct 30, 2023, at 3:03 AM, Heystek Grobler <heystekgrob...@gmail.com<mailto:heystekgrob...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hey Mitch. Thank you for the reply. I have installed everything in the virtual environment. The tutorial1 is now running for 14 hours without being completed. Below are screenshots of my setup files: <Screenshot 2023-10-30 at 10.54.07.png> <Screenshot 2023-10-30 at 10.50.09.png> <Screenshot 2023-10-30 at 10.50.31.png> I have followed the steps but I can't seem to get the error message "caught std: exception" to disappear. <Screenshot 2023-10-30 at 11.03.32.png> Is there anything else that I can try? Thank you for the help! Heystek --------------------------------------------------------- Heystek Grobler 0832721009 heystekgrob...@gmail.com<mailto:heystekgrob...@gmail.com> On Mon, Oct 30, 2023 at 4:50 AM Mitch Burnett <mitch.burn...@byu.edu<mailto:mitch.burn...@byu.edu>> wrote: Hi Heystek, This issue is most likely caused in a discrepancy between the python environment you setup for mlib_devel and one that matlab/simulink is using. Can you verify that when you start matlab that your python environment is active, or that your startsg.local configuration file sets the python environment correctly? Additionally, can you confirm that when setting up your python environment it is using python3 and that after you cloned mlib_devel that you also installed all dependencies into that environment (i.e., In your clone of mlib_devel that you ran `pip install -r requirements.txt`)? Hope this helps, Mitch On Oct 28, 2023, at 9:11 AM, Heystek Grobler <heystekgrob...@gmail.com<mailto:heystekgrob...@gmail.com>> wrote: Good day Mitch and Kaj. I hope that you guys are still doing well. Thank you so much for the help. I really appreciate it. I have made some good headway by following the instructions that you have sent me. I stumbled upon a new error by compiling the first tutorial. I received the error: ModuleNotFoundError: No module named ‘odict' I have installed odict in python but I still get this error. I have attached a screenshot as well. Has anyone encountered this error? <PastedGraphic-1.png> Thank you for all of the help! Heystek --------------------------------------------------------- Heystek Grobler 0832721009 heystekgrob...@gmail.com<mailto:heystekgrob...@gmail.com> On 25 Oct 2023, at 20:39, Mitch Burnett <mitch.burn...@byu.edu<mailto:mitch.burn...@byu.edu>> wrote: Sorry, I should be more helpful to specifically point out which of the issues in this list on the CASPER wiki link that you are running into. Morag had pointed you in the right direction. Your specific issue is that there is a conflict between a library in the Ubuntu installation and the same library used by Vivado but using its own copy, that also happens to be a different version. Morag’s explanation about how to handle this is the correct approach. It is also the approach detailed in the blog post on the casper wiki link I posted. The specific blog post in reference is this one: https://strath-sdr.github.io/tools/matlab/sysgen/vivado/linux/2021/01/28/sysgen-on-20-04.html Mitch On Oct 25, 2023, at 12:34 PM, Mitch Burnett <mitch.burn...@byu.edu<mailto:mitch.burn...@byu.edu>> wrote: Hi Heystek, The full set of instructions and how to overcome different issues based on the version of Ubuntu is documented on the CASPER wiki for installing the toolflow here: https://casper-toolflow.readthedocs.io/en/latest/index.html#a-note-on-operating-systems This has the solutions to all the current known issues with running the tools on these version of Ubuntu. >From your screenshots, it also looks like you will need to re-install the >Xilinx suite of tools. In the installation GUI you should select “Vitis”. This >selection will install Vivado, Vitis, and System Generator + Model Composer >for Simulink. Sorry you are having these issues. Mitch On Oct 25, 2023, at 12:30 PM, Kaj Wiik <kaj.w...@iki.fi<mailto:kaj.w...@iki.fi>> wrote: Hi Heystek, Indeed, it took me a while to remember this issue, please see my notes: https://gitlab.utu.fi/kjwiik/casper-installation#matlab-errors Also, I think you did not install Vitis, when asked in installation, you should select to install Vitis, not Vivado (Vitis selection also installs Vivado). Unfortunately, I think you have to reinstall because at least I do not know how to add Vitis to Vivado install. I hope this helps, Kaj On Wed, 25 Oct 2023 at 21:23, Heystek Grobler <heystekgrob...@gmail.com<mailto:heystekgrob...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hey Morag and everyone. I have installed kde-full and I am still getting the same issues and errors. Below are screenshots: <Screenshot 2023-10-25 at 20.05.57.png> <Screenshot 2023-10-25 at 20.07.57.png> <Screenshot 2023-10-25 at 20.08.08.png> I searched through the mail list. In the list Kaj Wiik encountered the same problem, but I can not find the solution. @Kaj did you perhaps manage to find a way for the toolchain to work? In the email list you and Mitch Burnett talked about posting a recipe somewhere for this. Thank you for the help. Heystek --------------------------------------------------------- Heystek Grobler 0832721009 heystekgrob...@gmail.com<mailto:heystekgrob...@gmail.com> On 16 Oct 2023, at 15:47, Morag Brown <mbr...@sarao.ac.za<mailto:mbr...@sarao.ac.za>> wrote: Hi Heystek, Can't remember for sure, but I think that "MATLABWindow application failed to launch" issue has been fixed in the past by installing the kde-full package. Otherwise I think the issue in red above is a library clashing issue - I gather the end of that error message says something about an undefined symbol, which would be because libhogweed expects a different version of the library it depends on than what is actually being used. If you run the following in the MATLAB terminal: !ldd /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libhogweed.so<http://libhogweed.so/>.2 It might show you that it's using the libgmp version that comes with Model Composer/Vivado. If you move that out of the path (typically you can just make an "exclude" directory within the directory containing the MC/Vivado libraries and move the offending items into that, so you can recover them later should you need), it will then use the system version of the library, which will hopefully have what is needed. I recall there being a few issues like this on the mailing list in the path, so searching the archives should hopefully provide more info if you need. Morag On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 1:21 PM Heystek Grobler <heystekgrob...@gmail.com<mailto:heystekgrob...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hey Jack, Dan and Francois. Thank you so much for the help and guidance, I really appreciate it! We reached out to the Xilinx University Program and received the necessary licenses. Below is an image of the license manager. <Screenshot from 2023-10-16 13-13-19.png> <Screenshot from 2023-10-16 13-13-40.png> I have set up everything according to the getting started page but I ran into the following errors when trying to open Simulink. Has anyone encountered something like this? <Screenshot from 2023-10-16 13-16-10.png> Thank you so much for the help! Heystek --------------------------------------------------------- Heystek Grobler 0832721009 heystekgrob...@gmail.com<mailto:heystekgrob...@gmail.com> On Thu, Oct 5, 2023 at 11:09 PM Francois Kapp <francois.k...@gmail.com<mailto:francois.k...@gmail.com>> wrote: Also look into whether your institution is registered under the Xilinx University Program - if so, Xilinx are generally amenable to donating licenses. Cheers, Francois On Thu, Oct 5, 2023 at 3:13 AM Jack Hickish <jackhick...@gmail.com<mailto:jackhick...@gmail.com>> wrote: I _think_ that's all you need. FYI - you can probably get a 30 day trial (or 90 in the case of sysgen) license for free, which should save you waiting for XUP. Cheers Jack On Thu, 5 Oct 2023 at 11:03, Heystek Grobler <heystekgrob...@gmail.com<mailto:heystekgrob...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hey Jack and Kaj. Thank you so much for the help and guidance. So the license I got with the RFSoC ZSU111 does not contain the Xilinx ML Enterprise Edition and it also does not contain SysGen. My University (The University of Pretoria) is reaching out to Xilinx to buy the appropriate licence. Will it suffice if the University gets the Xilinx ML Enterprise Edition and SysGen or should something else be added to it? Thank you for the help! Heystek --------------------------------------------------------- Heystek Grobler 0832721009 heystekgrob...@gmail.com<mailto:heystekgrob...@gmail.com> On Sun, Oct 1, 2023 at 6:09 PM Jack Hickish <jackhick...@gmail.com<mailto:jackhick...@gmail.com>> wrote: I would suggest trying to get the new license. I'm suspect that Vivado 2020 supports the RFSoC chips you want (though I haven't checked) but using an older version than the toolflow suggests will almost certainly lead to other issues. Swimming against the CASPER version-tide is never a particularly fun thing to do :) On Sun, 1 Oct 2023 at 13:22, Heystek Grobler <heystekgrob...@gmail.com<mailto:heystekgrob...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hey Jack. Should I then try to get a SysGen/ModelComposer license for 2021.1 or is there a way to still use Vivado 2020.06 with the RFSoC? Thank you for the help! Heystek --------------------------------------------------------- Heystek Grobler 0832721009 heystekgrob...@gmail.com<mailto:heystekgrob...@gmail.com> On 01 Oct 2023, at 14:12, Jack Hickish <jackhick...@gmail.com<mailto:jackhick...@gmail.com>> wrote: Not quite sure what to make of this, but I don't see anything for SysGen / ModelComposer newer than 2020.06, which wouldn't be valid with Vivado 2021.1 On Sun, 1 Oct 2023 at 12:47, Heystek Grobler <heystekgrob...@gmail.com<mailto:heystekgrob...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hey Jack. Thank you so much for the email. I have included screenshots of the licence manager below: <Screenshot 2023-10-01 at 13.42.31.png> <Screenshot 2023-10-01 at 13.42.52.png> <Screenshot 2023-10-01 at 13.43.15.png> Do I need another/different licence from Xilinx or is there a way around this? Thank you for the help. Heystek --------------------------------------------------------- Heystek Grobler 0832721009 heystekgrob...@gmail.com<mailto:heystekgrob...@gmail.com> On Sun, Oct 1, 2023 at 1:10 PM Jack Hickish <jackhick...@gmail.com<mailto:jackhick...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi Heystek, As the error in the diagnostic viewer suggests -- you don't seem to have an appropriate sysgen license, in either the default search paths (I think at least one of these is ~/.Xilinx/Xilinx.lic) or specified with an environment variable. Do you think you have a license the system isn't finding or is it possible you just need to get one from Xilinx? Also, the "Could not find Vitis installation" at the start of the MATLAB prompt is concerning, but I don't think that's the current issue. Cheers Jack On Sun, 1 Oct 2023 at 11:58, Heystek Grobler <heystekgrob...@gmail.com<mailto:heystekgrob...@gmail.com>> wrote: Good day everyone. I hope that this email finds you well. I am used to working with a ROACH2 and have now started with an RFSoC ZCU111. I followed the instructions on the CASPER Read The Docs Page and installed Ubuntu 20.04, Matlab 2021a and Vivado 2021.1. When I try to compile the first tutorial with jasper I get the following two errors (screenshots provided). <Screenshot 2023-10-01 at 12.50.59.png> <Screenshot 2023-10-01 at 12.51.44.png> Does anyone perhaps know how I can solve this? Thank you for the help. Heystek --------------------------------------------------------- Heystek Grobler 0832721009 heystekgrob...@gmail.com<mailto:heystekgrob...@gmail.com> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "casper@lists.berkeley.edu<mailto:casper@lists.berkeley.edu>" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to casper+unsubscr...@lists.berkeley.edu<mailto:casper+unsubscr...@lists.berkeley.edu>. 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