[Catalyst] "Your Project is not the Science Fair" (More potential propaganda for catalyst versus ruby on rails)

2006-06-15 Thread Thomas Hartman
Saw this on reddit and thought I'd share: http://approach.botonomy.com/2006/05/15/your-project-is-not-the-science-fair/ ___ List: Catalyst@lists.rawmode.org Listinfo: http://lists.rawmode.org/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail

Re: [Catalyst] accessing action methods in a TT view

2006-07-13 Thread Thomas Hartman
meaning of FRY? 2006/7/13, John Napiorkowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Quite often I create non action methods in my controllers to centralize > functions that don't need to be an action. Stuff like building up a > HTML::Widget form, etc. Usually in the controller I call it with > $self->local_m

Re: [Catalyst] test server unexpectedly closing connections

2006-07-17 Thread Thomas Hartman
What was your original deployment platform? Mod perl? 2006/7/15, Paul Makepeace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I've just debugged my way through something quite fiddly. Test server > working fine with Firefox, but not IE. It turned out that POSTing to a > page which then redirects and sets a cookie (not s

Re: [Catalyst] test server unexpectedly closing connections

2006-07-17 Thread Thomas Hartman
Oh, answering my own question, I guess the catalyst test server itself was serving pages, like in the tutorial. 2006/7/17, Thomas Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > What was your original deployment platform? Mod perl? > > 2006/7/15, Paul Makepeace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >

Re: [Catalyst] User Generated Content (project collaboration)

2006-08-14 Thread Thomas Hartman
something like this would be really helpful to me.2006/8/14, John Napiorkowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: BTW, to respond directly to your thoughts on creating a registration system, I have a good start on this as well, with a system that sends an email for verification and all, however it's quite messy

Re: [Catalyst] Why scaffolding? Validation and Learning

2006-08-18 Thread Thomas Hartman
The fact that InstantCrud "just worked" was an important factor for me, in choosing to push forward with Catalyst rather than ROR, or one of the other emerging web frameworks. "Catalyst is Backed By The Power of CPAN" wasn't enough of a reason for me. Yes, there are probably better reasons than Ins

Re: [Catalyst] how to get started?

2006-08-21 Thread Thomas Hartman
Since the "dependency hell" issue has been raised again, I'd like to ask, who'se using cpan? and who'se using cpan plus?Can anyone comment on the relative merits?FWIW, I'm currently struggling to install SQL::Translator, which is a requirement for DBIx::Class::DigestColumns. Having trouble with jus

Re: [Catalyst] how to get started?

2006-08-21 Thread Thomas Hartman
CPANPLUS has a mechanism for that, and if that could account for some of the difference. Or if not that, what. Thomas.2006/8/21, Chisel Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 11:47:26AM +0200, Thomas Hartman wrote:>Having trouble with just cpan, and was suggested to use

Re: [Catalyst] how to get started?

2006-08-22 Thread Thomas Hartman
"Finally, as a response to others in the thread, try CPANPLUS::Dist::Deb"Do you have to be running Debian to get use out of this, or will any linux distro do? (I'm running SUSE, and not particularly liking it.) 2006/8/21, Jonathan Rockway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Strangely, I've never had any trouble i

Re: [Catalyst] Tutorial in trunk..

2006-08-27 Thread Thomas Hartman
I had this as well.IIRC, there was a .pm file that had "use base TT something or other something"The fix was to put "use something or other somethingsomething"before the use base line. That is, "use" before "use base"Look at the file that is causing the error...2006/8/27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL

[Catalyst] could I have a wiki login? I want to update Catalyst installation how to for Dreamhost/local/non root install

2006-09-01 Thread Thomas Hartman
I'd like to replace all the junk at http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/wiki/Dreamhostwith a link to my fresh post at http://perlmonks.org/?node_id=570777This basically suggests that for a non-root perl install (or even for a root instaall, IMHO) it's better to perl locally than monkey with PERL5LIB/PREFI

Re: [Catalyst] Hosting options, please recommend

2006-09-10 Thread Thomas Hartman
I use a VPS at tektonic, and wrote about getting Catalyst + DBIC n friends installed in a sane way at http://perlmonks.org/?node_id=570777good luck! 2006/9/10, Daniel McBrearty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: get a virtual machine at bytemark.co.ukslightly more than el cheapo shared hosting but root access an

Re: [Catalyst] catalyst++

2006-09-29 Thread Thomas Hartman
similar idea to InstantCrud, isn't this?2006/9/29, Harshal Shah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Hi friends,Catalyst is so far the best framework I have found to make web based applications (ruby is there ..but perl is god) . I've been toying around with catalyst for couple of months and made few web based app

[Catalyst] bad luck with shadowcat install -- something wrong with cpan? was Re: [Dbix-class] How to Install Catalyst on windows

2006-12-11 Thread Thomas Hartman
I would like to incorporate the shadowcat installer into my soon-to-be google project hosted PimpMyCat, which intends a "one shot" install of a sane catalyst environment, including as many demo sites as possible -- slick marketing intended to be appeal to the masses :) But I had bad luck with sha

[Catalyst] Pedantically thorough one-shot catalyst sandbox installation: eventually intended to install demo/sample apps at one shot as well

2006-12-15 Thread Thomas Hartman
( Originally posted to perlmonks at http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=589529 ) I have released an (in progress) catalyst one-shot installer: pimpmycat -- into Google code project hosting. http://code.google.com/p/pimpmycat/source";> This is the way I have evolved to manage complexity in perl pr

Re: [Catalyst] VMware Image

2006-12-21 Thread Thomas Hartman
There's also pimpmycat. Takes a while to install, but more or less all you have to is keep hitting the return key until it's done. Puts everything (including local perl) under whatever directory you specify. http://code.google.com/p/pimpmycat/ 2006/12/21, Daniel McBrearty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: N

Re: [Catalyst] Re: redirection to the original URI

2006-12-31 Thread Thomas Hartman
Do you mean Response::redirect() rather than Response::location()? I couldn't find anything about the location method in http://search.cpan.org/~mramberg/Catalyst-Runtime-5.7006/lib/Catalyst/Response.pm Or is this a newer/older version than what's current on cpan? 2007/1/1, Fayland Lam <[EMAIL

Re: [Catalyst] Re: redirection to the original URI

2006-12-31 Thread Thomas Hartman
If my understanding is correct, by using features not advertised in the interface (ie, the module documentation), it's more likely to be broken on upgrade. 2007/1/1, Thomas Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Do you mean Response::redirect() rather than Response::location()? I couldn't fi

[Catalyst] Nate Wiger removed Catalyst::Plugin::FormBuilder from the CPAN modules list.

2007-01-03 Thread Thomas Hartman
r of C::Controller::Formbuilder To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=24197 > Thanks for reminding me. I've removed it from the CPAN modules list. -Nate On 1/3/07, Thomas Hartman via RT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Wed Jan 03 03:24:24 2007: Request

Re: [Catalyst] Managing CPAN on Ubuntu [was: 'Installing under ...' on the wiki]

2007-01-05 Thread Thomas Hartman
http://code.google.com/p/pimpmycat/ might be helpful. Still not as good as I would like it to be, but takes you from freshly installed ubuntu to ubuntu catalyst sandbox as scriptedly as possible. best, thomas. 2007/1/5, Daniel McBrearty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I've never had a problem on Ubuntu o

Re: [Catalyst] Managing CPAN on Ubuntu [was: 'Installing under ...' on the wiki]

2007-01-09 Thread Thomas Hartman
t requires some babysitting, but it gives many hints to make the installation as user friendly as possible If it doesn't work the first time, there is lots of documentation inside this script on how to troubleshoot, work with, and improve it. $ ./install.sh " 2007/1/9, Th

Re: [Catalyst] Managing CPAN on Ubuntu [was: 'Installing under ...' on the wiki]

2007-01-09 Thread Thomas Hartman
Just to plug (pimp?) (ubuntu installer) pimpmycat again: "Basically, this is a collection of simple shell scripts. The main function is to install a collection of external dependencies organized around perl under a single top level directory. Along with this, there are user friendly backup and re

Re: [Catalyst] Managing CPAN on Ubuntu [was: 'Installing under ...' on the wiki]

2007-01-09 Thread Thomas Hartman
I actually tried to manage this from pimpmycat too. http://pimpmycat.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/install/apt-get-installs.sh (mentioned in the readme script) This is unfortunately a bit impure, as it installs some stuff that isnt' strictly necessary for catalyst... (eg emacs) so I wound up mixing

Re: [Catalyst] catalystinstaller.sh - Automated Catalyst installation for FC6

2007-01-16 Thread Thomas Hartman
I?m aware of one problem with this script, so far. When building Catalyst::Runtime. the module?s configuration routines complain that the optional package Catalyst::Engine::Apache is not installed. It appears to want version 1.05 which is an older version than what is currently available. The curr

Re: [Catalyst] catalystinstaller.sh - Automated Catalyst installation for FC6

2007-01-17 Thread Thomas Hartman
Is your cat installer script available to the public? On 1/17/07, Perrin Harkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thomas Hartman wrote: > If the only with your script is the user has to know to accept the > defaults, you may want to have a look at: > > http://search.cpan.org/~mschi

Re: [Catalyst] CALLING FOR VCS AND EDITOR REGEXES

2007-01-27 Thread Thomas Hartman
usually backup starts with just #. but sometimes it starts with .#, not just #. not sure what the difference is, they seem both to be backups. On 1/26/07, Kieren Diment <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 27/01/07, Kieren Diment <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 27/01/07, Matt S Trout < [EMAIL

Re: [Catalyst] Dreamhost for Catalyst

2007-02-14 Thread Thomas Hartman
I use dreamhost as an easy way to get wikis/svn/other goodies running. Svn with web access is especially nice, still haven't figured out how to install this on my "real" server (at linode). However, for actual catalyst websites, I have a virtual server at linode.com, where I have a root account f

Re: [Catalyst] Dreamhost for Catalyst

2007-02-14 Thread Thomas Hartman
I think we are talking past each other, or maybe I used the wrong word. What I meant was, what you get with linode *appears* to be the same as what you would get if you had your own server: root access, do whatever you want. But it's cheaper, and the performance isn't as good. "I think most vir

Re: [Catalyst] Dreamhost for Catalyst

2007-02-14 Thread Thomas Hartman
Danny: I couldn't really say from personal experience what the performance is like on linode, nothing I'm doing has a real load on it. But from what I've read browsing around, virtual hosting is no substitute for having your own dedicated server if you get a lot of traffic. So, it's basically a n

Re: [Catalyst] Session problems with IE and cookies

2007-02-28 Thread Thomas Hartman
Don't really understand the root of the problem, but I asked about this on #Catalyst and was told of a workaround, and saved it to my .bashrc hints. If I recall correctly, the consensus is that this is an IE6 bug. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> thartman_catalyst_IE6_response_redirect_prob_hint try myapp_s