[Catalyst] how to get started?

I'm a programmer with many years experience with perl and some with CGI scripts but little with CPAN and none with web app frameworks. I've been trying for days to install Catalyst and haven't gotten far. I've tried both "perl -MCPAN 'install Task::Catalyst'" and cat-install and they both fail wi

Re: [Catalyst] how to get started?

s_policy follow cpan> q Then try reinstalling Regards, Peter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 August 2006 10:04 To: catalyst@lists.rawmode.org Subject: [Catalyst] how to get started? I'm a programmer

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On 21/08/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've been trying for days to install Catalyst and haven't gotten > far. I've tried both "perl -MCPAN 'install Task::Catalyst'" and > cat-install and they both fail with many errors in various > prerequisite modules. I've tried this on Su

Re: [Catalyst] how to get started?

Since the "dependency hell" issue has been raised again, I'd like to ask, who'se using cpan? and who'se using cpan plus?Can anyone comment on the relative merits?FWIW, I'm currently struggling to install SQL::Translator, which is a requirement for DBIx::Class::DigestColumns. Having trouble with jus

Re: [Catalyst] how to get started?

On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 11:47:26AM +0200, Thomas Hartman wrote: >Having trouble with just cpan, and was suggested to use cpan plus. I find that some modules install better with cpan, and others with cpanplus I think I'm primarily using cpan, but in an ideal world I'd be creating deb/ubuntu pa

Re: [Catalyst] how to get started?

On Mon, 2006-08-21 at 11:13 +0100, Chisel Wright wrote: > I think I'm primarily using cpan, but in an ideal world I'd be creating > deb/ubuntu packages for everything and installing those. > (the "official" ones are terribly out of date) I'm creating fedora/centos rpm packages for everything (I ha

Re: [Catalyst] how to get started?

Anybody have ideas on what factors make for a better install with cpanplus, what better for cpan?One observation I will make, which will probably not be news to many of you, is that most of the breakage I see happens in the test phase of the install. EG, module Foo doesn't depend directly on module

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On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 12:40:03PM +0200, Thomas Hartman wrote: >One observation I will make, which will probably not be news to many of >you, is that most of the breakage I see happens in the test phase of the >install. Yeah, I suspect that if I didn't run any tests and just blindly i

Re: [Catalyst] how to get started?

Title: RE: [Catalyst] how to get started? Burninbruce, I understand how frustrating CPAN installs can sometimes be. However, I (and, I'm sure, a whole lot of others) believe that CPAN is a part of the Perl culture, and the ability to install any kind of module is a valuable skill.

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rrific framework, and perhaps leverage those same > modules in your future software. > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf > of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Mon 8/21/2006 5:03 AM > To: catalyst@lists.rawmode.org > Subject: [Catalyst] how to get st

Re: [Catalyst] how to get started?

John Napiorkowski wrote: > I also had a similar frustration when starting with > Catalyst. It's definitely worth your time to muddle > through it and make it work. One thing that I've been > doing to help me keep track is I keep a running list > of modules I've installed from a clean 5.8.7 perl t

Re: [Catalyst] how to get started?

On Aug 21, 2006, at 2:03 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm a programmer with many years experience with perl and some > with CGI scripts but little with CPAN and none with web app > frameworks. > > I've been trying for days to install Catalyst and haven't gotten > far. I've tried both "perl -MC

Re: [Catalyst] how to get started?

On Aug 21, 2006, at 2:47 AM, Thomas Hartman wrote: > Since the "dependency hell" issue has been raised again, I'd like > to ask, > > who'se using cpan? and who'se using cpan plus? CPAN. And I've never been able to install Catalyst without lots of manual installs of prerequisites, careful watch

Re: [Catalyst] how to get started?

Matt S Trout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 08/21/2006: > John Napiorkowski wrote: > > If you'd like I make a quick and dirty script to load > > CPAN modules in an order that seems to work when I > > start from a vanilla 5.8.7 install.  I also know Matt > > has an install script around that I am sure it much

Re: [Catalyst] how to get started?

On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 08:08:19AM -0700, Steve Atkins wrote: > Task::Catalyst is completely broken. Just out of interest, in what way? -- Chisel Wright e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: http://www.herlpacker.co.uk/ This is not an automated signature. I type this in to the bottom of every message.

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Steve Atkins wrote: > On Aug 21, 2006, at 2:47 AM, Thomas Hartman wrote: > >> Since the "dependency hell" issue has been raised again, I'd like >> to ask, >> >> who'se using cpan? and who'se using cpan plus? > > CPAN. And I've never been able to install Catalyst without > lots of manual install

Re: [Catalyst] how to get started?

Chisel Wright wrote: > On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 08:08:19AM -0700, Steve Atkins wrote: >> Task::Catalyst is completely broken. > > Just out of interest, in what way? > Incorrect (as in old) version numbers, missing prerequisites somewhere in the chain, dependency upon modules which aren't common

Re: [Catalyst] how to get started?

Steve Atkins wrote: > Task::Catalyst is completely broken. Contact Sebastian Riedel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), he retained maintainership after leaving the project so there's nothing we can do about it. -- Matt S Trout Offering custom development, consultancy and support Technical Dire

Re: [Catalyst] how to get started?

Carl Franks wrote: > On 21/08/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I've been trying for days to install Catalyst and haven't gotten >> far. I've tried both "perl -MCPAN 'install Task::Catalyst'" and >> cat-install and they both fail with many errors in various >> prerequisite module

Re: [Catalyst] how to get started?

At 18:46 2006-08-21, Nate Wiger wrote: >A big problem I ran into is that when Module::Build is downloaded via >CPAN and auto-configured, cc compilation is disabled by default. You get: > > Module::Build is not configured with C_support > >So, I had to manually build Module::Build, outside of C

Re: [Catalyst] how to get started?

Johan Lindstrom wrote: > At 18:46 2006-08-21, Nate Wiger wrote: >> A big problem I ran into is that when Module::Build is downloaded via >> CPAN and auto-configured, cc compilation is disabled by default. You get: >> >> Module::Build is not configured with C_support >> >> So, I had to manually

Re: [Catalyst] how to get started?

* Christopher H. Laco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-08-21 19:25]: > Long live EU::MM! You also enjoy torturing Schwern, don’t you? Regards, -- Aristotle Pagaltzis // ___ List: Catalyst@lists.rawmode.org Listinfo: http://lists.raw

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A. Pagaltzis wrote: > * Christopher H. Laco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-08-21 19:25]: >> Long live EU::MM! > > You also enjoy torturing Schwern, don’t you? > > Regards, No, but I do love to be on the receiving end of his rants from time to time. ;-) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital si

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On Aug 21, 2006, at 8:54 AM, Matt S Trout wrote: > Steve Atkins wrote: >> Task::Catalyst is completely broken. > > Contact Sebastian Riedel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), he retained maintainership > after > leaving the project so there's nothing we can do about it. I'm not asking for it to be fixed (or

Re: [Catalyst] how to get started?

* Steve Atkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-08-21 20:20]: > No. I really don't like using anything other than cpan to > install perl modules if I can possibly avoid it. I'm close to > making an exception for catalyst, though, so I may give > cat-install a try. You didn’t even look at it, did you? >

Re: [Catalyst] how to get started?

FWIW I'd agree with what Max said. The first time I installed cat on a fresh system it drove me nuts. The second time it was alot easier. I'm just using normal CPAN. The biggest hassle is normally an external xxx-dev library that is needed, it can be a bit of detective work to discover which (inst

Re: [Catalyst] how to get started?

Strangely, I've never had any trouble installing Catalyst. I usually do "cpanp install Catalyst::Runtime Catalyst::Devel Module::Install::Catalyst", and I'm set. Alternatively, I could just run Makefile.PL for one of my Cat apps, and that works as well. (But for various reasons, I don't keep inc

Re: [Catalyst] how to get started?

"Finally, as a response to others in the thread, try CPANPLUS::Dist::Deb"Do you have to be running Debian to get use out of this, or will any linux distro do? (I'm running SUSE, and not particularly liking it.) 2006/8/21, Jonathan Rockway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Strangely, I've never had any trouble i

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A. Pagaltzis wrote: > * Steve Atkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-08-21 20:20]: > >>No. I really don't like using anything other than cpan to >>install perl modules if I can possibly avoid it. I'm close to >>making an exception for catalyst, though, so I may give >>cat-install a try. > > > You didn