Re: [Catalyst] Documentation on DBIx Class

2008-01-18 Thread Steve Atkins
On Jan 18, 2008, at 3:28 PM, Andrew Rodland wrote: On Friday 18 January 2008 02:47:14 pm Mesdaq, Ali wrote: I have to just rant a bit about that. The most difficult thing about catalyst is trying to learn dbic. Except that's not a "thing about catalyst". You don't need to use DBIC. It's a

Re: [Catalyst] Documentation on DBIx Class

2008-01-18 Thread Andrew Rodland
On Friday 18 January 2008 02:47:14 pm Mesdaq, Ali wrote: > I have to just rant a bit about that. The most difficult thing about > catalyst is trying to learn dbic. Except that's not a "thing about catalyst". You don't need to use DBIC. It's a popular choice, sure, but if you think that something

RE: [Catalyst] Documentation on DBIx Class

2008-01-18 Thread Mesdaq, Ali
I personally prefer a lot of different examples or a comprehensive FAQ. I think just those being addressed could solve the documentation issues with dbic. Cuz I mean its pretty well documented at the method level but putting it together is where its lacking. For what it does the FAQ section is very

RE: [Catalyst] Documentation on DBIx Class

2008-01-18 Thread Jonathan Rockway
On Fri, 2008-01-18 at 12:47 -0800, Mesdaq, Ali wrote: > I have to just rant a bit about that. The most difficult thing about > catalyst is trying to learn dbic. I love dbic and how clean it can make > working with the data layer but because of the documentation its hard to > wrap ur head around to

RE: [Catalyst] Documentation on DBIx Class

2008-01-18 Thread Mesdaq, Ali
I have to just rant a bit about that. The most difficult thing about catalyst is trying to learn dbic. I love dbic and how clean it can make working with the data layer but because of the documentation its hard to wrap ur head around to just fully know how it works and what to expect. I am not a fu

Re: [Catalyst] Catalyst, REST and Firefox

2008-01-18 Thread Adam Jacob
Jonas, Myself, Jshirley, or Claco would gladly take patches to C::A::REST to add this functionality. Send us the patch, and we'll get it tested and out the door. Adam On 1/17/08, Jonas Alves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 17, 2008 6:03 PM, Christopher H. Laco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >

RE: [Catalyst] Documentation on DBIx Class

2008-01-18 Thread Peter Edwards
>-Original Message- >From: Jennifer Ahn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: 18 January 2008 20:07 >To: The elegant MVC web framework >Subject: Re: [Catalyst] Documentation on DBIx Class > >Where is a good place to learn DBIx::Class in a few hours? > >I've always used the DBI module for my CGI

Re: [Catalyst] Documentation on DBIx Class

2008-01-18 Thread Alex Povolotsky
Jennifer Ahn wrote: Where is a good place to learn DBIx::Class in a few hours? I've always used the DBI module for my CGI scripts. Few hours? Ask your documentation pills dealer... ;) Alex. ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://list

Re: [Catalyst] Documentation on DBIx Class

2008-01-18 Thread Michael Higgins
On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 12:06:39 -0800 Jennifer Ahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Where is a good place to learn DBIx::Class in a few hours? > > I've always used the DBI module for my CGI scripts. > http://cpan.uwinnipeg.ca/htdocs/DBIx-Class/DocMap.html might be a good start? A few hours, eh? ;-) I

Re: [Catalyst] Documentation on DBIx Class

2008-01-18 Thread Jennifer Ahn
Where is a good place to learn DBIx::Class in a few hours? I've always used the DBI module for my CGI scripts. Alex Povolotsky wrote: Ian Tegebo wrote: Unfortunately, Tutorial is weak. CRUD section lacks Update at all, and it does not deal with any transaction, and it seems to use poor meth

Re: [Catalyst] Documentation on DBIx Class

2008-01-18 Thread Alex Povolotsky
Ian Tegebo wrote: Unfortunately, Tutorial is weak. CRUD section lacks Update at all, and it does not deal with any transaction, and it seems to use poor methods to create records. Could you provide an example of richer methods for record creation? Not yet. I'm learning Catalyst for ab

RE: [Catalyst] Debugging Catalyst with Eclipse

2008-01-18 Thread Mesdaq, Ali
I have been using Komodo for a few years now and I am very happy with it in general. Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) Security Researcher II Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com --

Re: [Catalyst] Debugging Catalyst with Eclipse

2008-01-18 Thread Nathan Waddell
It would be really nice if there were some detailed articles on dev.catalyst.perl.org regarding different options for debugging and how to implement them. On Jan 18, 2008 10:38 AM, Peter Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -Original Message- > >From: Nathan Waddell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: [Catalyst] App::TemplateServer

2008-01-18 Thread Ashley
This rules, Jonathan. * perl 5.010 is required This kinda sucks. I know it's ridiculous but some places I've worked in the last couple years still had 5.6 and where I'm working now probably won't have 5.10 anytime soon. On Jan 18, 2008, at 3:38 AM, Jonathan Rockway wrote: On Fri, 2008-0

Re: [Catalyst] Debugging Catalyst with Eclipse

2008-01-18 Thread Peter Edwards
-Original Message- >From: Nathan Waddell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: 18 January 2008 15:29 >To: The elegant MVC web framework >Subject: Re: [Catalyst] Debugging Catalyst with Eclipse > >Wow, thanks for all the responses. > >Troy, I'll subscribe to the EPIC list and see if I can get a

Re: [Catalyst] App::TemplateServer

2008-01-18 Thread Nathan Waddell
This brings to mind a site like CSS Zen Garden. Template Zen Garden, perhaps? ;) On Jan 18, 2008 2:53 AM, Jonathan Rockway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > A while ago, ranguard++ on IRC said it might be nice to have an > application that could take HTML templates (TT, etc.) and render t

Re: [Catalyst] Debugging Catalyst with Eclipse

2008-01-18 Thread Nathan Waddell
Wow, thanks for all the responses. Troy, I'll subscribe to the EPIC list and see if I can get a conversation started on their end. Matt, I guess you're a member of the EPIC list? Dmitriy, how did you set up Eclipse+EPIC to debug Catalyst apps? Peter, the Devel::ebug as remote debugger sounds pr

RE: [Catalyst] Debugging Catalyst with Eclipse

2008-01-18 Thread Peter Edwards
>On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 11:11:13AM -0500, Troy Davis wrote: > On Jan 17, 2008, at 10:37 AM, Nathan Waddell wrote: > >I'm specifically looking for some tips on how to set up Eclipse (with > >EPIC, of course) to debug Catalyst applications - either locally or > >remotely. I'm ok with using the Catal

Re: [Catalyst] App::TemplateServer

2008-01-18 Thread Jonathan Rockway
On Fri, 2008-01-18 at 02:53 -0600, Jonathan Rockway wrote: > Well, I wrote this application and it's on the CPAN as > App::TemplateServer. You run it like: A few addenda: * perl 5.010 is required * the latest version is 0.04 (freshly uploaded a few minutes ago) * the TD provider isn't act

Re: [Catalyst] Debugging Catalyst with Eclipse

2008-01-18 Thread Matt S Trout
On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 11:11:13AM -0500, Troy Davis wrote: > On Jan 17, 2008, at 10:37 AM, Nathan Waddell wrote: > >I'm specifically looking for some tips on how to set up Eclipse (with > >EPIC, of course) to debug Catalyst applications - either locally or > >remotely. I'm ok with using the Cataly

[Catalyst] App::TemplateServer

2008-01-18 Thread Jonathan Rockway
Hi all, A while ago, ranguard++ on IRC said it might be nice to have an application that could take HTML templates (TT, etc.) and render them with a set of static data. The idea is that you can give a small app and templates to your non-Perl-developer web designer, and and s/he can work on them o

[Catalyst] new Catalyst::Component::ACCEPT_CONTEXT

2008-01-18 Thread Jonathan Rockway
Hi all, A few people on IRC have reported that using Catalyst::Component::ACCEPT_CONTEXT causes extremely weird things to happen. They're right. The cause is NEXT skipping Catalyst::Controller::new when you do something like this: package MyApp::Controller::ACCEPT_CONTEXT; use base qw/Catal