Re: [Catalyst] The Netiquette thread (OT)

2009-04-28 Thread Charlie Garrison
Good afternoon, On 28/04/09 at 1:09 PM -0700, Bill Moseley wrote: >All will be fine once a native Mutt app for the iPhone comes out. You could always ssh back to your main machine and use Mutt there. ;-) (Control key is a bugger to use though.) Charlie -- Charlie Garrison PO Box 14

Re: [Catalyst] Migrating mod_perl app to Catalyst

2009-04-28 Thread J. Shirley
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 4:58 AM, Matt S Trout wrote: > On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 01:54:12PM -0500, Michael Reddick wrote: > > Does anyone have any advice for migrating a large mod_perl app that has > no > > tests to catalyst? > > > > I already know of Catalyst::Controller::WrapCGI which seems to be

Re: [Catalyst] Which model is better, DBI or DBIC::Schema?

2009-04-28 Thread mamod
Which model is better, DBI or DBIC::Schema? When I started using DBIC, I managed to keep using DBI for tasks I couldn't implement in DBIC but then with time totally moved to DBIC which is simpler and much fun to do tasks with ___ List: Catalyst@

[Catalyst] Catalyst IPv6 support?

2009-04-28 Thread chiel
Hello, I was wondering if Catalyst supports IPv6? I search the archive/google but couldn't find anything useful. If it's not support, is it planed? chiel ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinf

Re: [Catalyst] Which model is better, DBI or DBIC::Schema?

2009-04-28 Thread Matt S Trout
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 05:38:57PM +0800, Malloy wrote: > Which model is better, DBI or DBIC::Schema? If you're asking, you should probably be using DBIC::Schema since it's most popular so the best integrated and easy to get help with. -- Matt S Trout Catalyst and DBIx::Class consult

Re: [Catalyst] The Netiquette thread (OT)

2009-04-28 Thread Bill Moseley
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:59:56AM +0200, Ian Wells wrote: > > Top posting is bad. > > Bottom posting is bad. > > When quoting a previous message: > > - Remove as much of the original message as you can. I could not agree more. But secretly since getting an iPhone I kind of like the top posting

Re: [Catalyst] Relations 1:M

2009-04-28 Thread Matt S Trout
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 08:02:49PM +0200, neila wrote: > Welcome, > > I have got a problem with relation has_many. If you just hit reply to a random post you're replying to that thread, not starting a new one - you need to start a new message to: catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Additionally, since t

Re: [Catalyst] Catalyst error from CPAN

2009-04-28 Thread Matt S Trout
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 08:18:33PM +0100, gor...@gorste.plus.com wrote: > Dear List > > > > I have just installed catalyst from CPAN. I seam to get this error : > > > > Can't call method "can" without a package or object reference at > /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.8/Catalyst/Plugin/Authenticati

Re: [Catalyst] Migrating mod_perl app to Catalyst

2009-04-28 Thread Matt S Trout
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 01:54:12PM -0500, Michael Reddick wrote: > Does anyone have any advice for migrating a large mod_perl app that has no > tests to catalyst? > > I already know of Catalyst::Controller::WrapCGI which seems to be a good > start. Assuming your app doesn't use apache specific st

Re: [Catalyst] script/myapp_server -r Can't exec "/usr/bin/perl" every 3 or 4 restarts

2009-04-28 Thread Matt S Trout
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 12:45:29PM +0100, Mike Glen wrote: > Matt S Trout wrote: > >On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 09:51:59AM +0100, Mike Glen wrote: > > > >>I think it might be due to line 335 in HTTP.pm > >>335 $ENV{PERL5LIB} .= join $Config{path_sep}, @INC; > >> > > > >Hmm. That's to try

Re: [Catalyst] Relations 1:M

2009-04-28 Thread neila
I have found my mistake in line 89. It should name: podmiot and it works! I have got a question : id_column is ok, but how can I choose option name in model_config? thx! 88 - type: Select 89 name: podmioty 90 label: Podmioty 91 model_config: 92 model: 'hubeDB::Podmioty' 93 resultset: 'hubeDB:

[Catalyst] Relations 1:M

2009-04-28 Thread neila
Welcome, I have got a problem with relation has_many. I have got 2 tables: CREATE TABLE podmioty ( lpp integer not null primary key autoincrement, nazwa varchar(100), nip varchar(20), regon varchar(20), adres varchar(100), osoba varchar(50), uwagi varchar(200) ); sqlite> .schema umowy CREATE TA

Re: [Catalyst] Final RFC for Press Release!

2009-04-28 Thread Ian Wells
2009/4/28 Alexander Hartmaier : > That paragraph is awesome! > I vote for including it! Seconded. Although I've tweaked the wording slightly on the wiki, mainly to remove the weasel word 'most'. ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lis

Re: [Catalyst] The Netiquette thread (OT)

2009-04-28 Thread Jonathan Rockway
* On Tue, Apr 28 2009, Zbigniew Lukasiak wrote: > I have the feeling that this bashing of top posters or bottom posters > ... is often just showing off your status in the community. +1. That's all it is. People get wayyy too bent out of shape over the formatting of emails. It's not 1990 anymore

Re: [Catalyst] Final RFC for Press Release!

2009-04-28 Thread Alexander Hartmaier
Am Dienstag, den 28.04.2009, 17:44 +0200 schrieb Edmund von der Burg: > I like that press release - it is short enough to get read and > sufficiently light on detail not to make people feel that the learning > curve will be too steep. > > 2009/4/28 John Napiorkowski : > > and add their personal adv

Re: [Catalyst] The Netiquette thread (OT)

2009-04-28 Thread Rodrigo
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Ian Wells wrote: > People: > > Top posting is bad. > > Bottom posting is bad. I'm on gmail, like some people here. It handles top, bottom and interwoven posting just fine in its "conversations" (I think that's what google calls it). It folds useless quotes too

Re: [Catalyst] Final RFC for Press Release!

2009-04-28 Thread John Napiorkowski
[snip...] > Perhaps we should add something similar to our press > releases: > > - > > About Catalyst > > Catalyst is a framework for building web applications of > all sizes. It > allows clean separation of all the components and embodies > most > current best practices. Devel

Re: [Catalyst] Final RFC for Press Release!

2009-04-28 Thread Edmund von der Burg
I like that press release - it is short enough to get read and sufficiently light on detail not to make people feel that the learning curve will be too steep. 2009/4/28 John Napiorkowski : > and add their personal advocacy or howto stuff in the, "Blogs and third party > discussions" section, whic

Re: [Catalyst] Final RFC for Press Release!

2009-04-28 Thread Joel Bernstein
On 28 Apr 2009, at 14:48, Ben Vinnerd wrote: Joel Bernstein wrote: On 28 Apr 2009, at 14:32, Ben Vinnerd wrote: John Napiorkowski wrote: There's a new edit of the Catalyst press release, which was graciously donated by a copy edit expert mst found for us. mst++ Please take a look: http

Re: [Catalyst] Final RFC for Press Release!

2009-04-28 Thread Julien Gervais-Bird
> Please take a look: > http://dev.catalystframework.org/wiki/releaseannouncements/58pressrelease I like the new version of the press release. but... from the release: > Fully tested and backward compatible to version 4.3. Having no idea when version 4.3 was released, I feel the statement is not

Re: [Catalyst] Final RFC for Press Release!

2009-04-28 Thread Jesse Sheidlower
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 06:29:06AM -0700, John Napiorkowski wrote: > > This edit was done by an expert in these matters. I realize it says less > than many of us would prefer, given the excitement and sense of > accomplishment we feel. However, I really think this should go out ASAP > (before

Re: [Catalyst] Final RFC for Press Release!

2009-04-28 Thread Ben Vinnerd
Joel Bernstein wrote: On 28 Apr 2009, at 14:32, Ben Vinnerd wrote: John Napiorkowski wrote: There's a new edit of the Catalyst press release, which was graciously donated by a copy edit expert mst found for us. mst++ Please take a look: http://dev.catalystframework.org/wiki/releaseannounc

Re: [Catalyst] Final RFC for Press Release!

2009-04-28 Thread Joel Bernstein
On 28 Apr 2009, at 14:32, Ben Vinnerd wrote: John Napiorkowski wrote: There's a new edit of the Catalyst press release, which was graciously donated by a copy edit expert mst found for us. mst++ Please take a look: http://dev.catalystframework.org/wiki/releaseannouncements/58pressrelease.

Re: [Catalyst] Final RFC for Press Release!

2009-04-28 Thread J. Shirley
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:29 PM, John Napiorkowski wrote: > > There's a new edit of the Catalyst press release, which was graciously > donated by a copy edit expert mst found for us. mst++ > > Please take a look: > http://dev.catalystframework.org/wiki/releaseannouncements/58pressrelease.edit >

Re: [Catalyst] Final RFC for Press Release!

2009-04-28 Thread Ben Vinnerd
John Napiorkowski wrote: There's a new edit of the Catalyst press release, which was graciously donated by a copy edit expert mst found for us. mst++ Please take a look: http://dev.catalystframework.org/wiki/releaseannouncements/58pressrelease.edit No permissions to edit this page _

[Catalyst] Final RFC for Press Release!

2009-04-28 Thread John Napiorkowski
There's a new edit of the Catalyst press release, which was graciously donated by a copy edit expert mst found for us. mst++ Please take a look: http://dev.catalystframework.org/wiki/releaseannouncements/58pressrelease.edit Now, there's a lot of changes and it's much shorter. Basically, the

Re: [Catalyst] The Netiquette thread (OT)

2009-04-28 Thread kakimoto
> This mailing list is for helping people. > > If you want to be helped, you'll get more sympathy from the people > with the knowledge you need if you follow these guidelines. > > If you are offering help, I assume you want to aid the community, > and > driving people away from the mailing list

Re: [Catalyst] The Netiquette thread (OT)

2009-04-28 Thread J. Shirley
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Zbigniew Lukasiak wrote: > I have the feeling that this bashing of top posters or bottom posters > or whatever netiquette you have in disregard is often just showing off > your status in the community. > There are studies showing that practical jokes victims (in t

Re: [Catalyst] The Netiquette thread (OT)

2009-04-28 Thread Zbigniew Lukasiak
I have the feeling that this bashing of top posters or bottom posters or whatever netiquette you have in disregard is often just showing off your status in the community. There are studies showing that practical jokes victims (in traditional work situations) [1] are the less efficient workers than

Re: [Catalyst] The Netiquette thread (OT)

2009-04-28 Thread J. Shirley
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 7:33 PM, Simon Wilcox wrote: > On 28/4/09 11:13, J. Shirley wrote: > > Addendum: Don't drive away prolific responders by responding to single >> lines uttered as an aside, because you have your own gripes. >> > > You mean me, obviously. In response all I'll say is that I p

Re: [Catalyst] The Netiquette thread (OT)

2009-04-28 Thread Octavian Rasnita
From: "Simon Wilcox" Actually, it's mostly the inconsistency that's bad. I'm on several lists that work just fine with top posting. I fully agree with this. The netiquette's scope is to make everyone happy, but this is not possible. As an example, a blind person can't use Linux as easy as Win

Re: [Catalyst] The Netiquette thread (OT)

2009-04-28 Thread Kieren Diment
\o/ Remember in utf8, nobody can see you ;-) O_o On 28/04/2009, at 8:33 PM, Simon Wilcox wrote: On 28/4/09 11:13, J. Shirley wrote: Addendum: Don't drive away prolific responders by responding to single lines uttered as an aside, because you have your own gripes. You mean me, obviously.

Re: [Catalyst] The Netiquette thread (OT)

2009-04-28 Thread Simon Wilcox
On 28/4/09 11:13, J. Shirley wrote: Addendum: Don't drive away prolific responders by responding to single lines uttered as an aside, because you have your own gripes. You mean me, obviously. In response all I'll say is that I picked you up when you had repeatedly complained about top postin

Re: [Catalyst] unexpected behavior of $c->request->secure and $c->request->base

2009-04-28 Thread Tomas Doran
Phil Mitchell wrote: For (a) documentation, I took a stab at writing some. If this looks okay, I'll submit a patch ... Heh, unified diffs are easier to read (at least to me) than scanning for [ADDED]. That said, this looks good, please submit said patch :) Thank you! t0m __

Re: [Catalyst] The Netiquette thread (OT)

2009-04-28 Thread J. Shirley
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 5:59 PM, Ian Wells wrote: > People: > > Top posting is bad. > > Bottom posting is bad. > > When quoting a previous message: > > - Remove as much of the original message as you can. (And if the > message you send still has the mailing list footer quoted within it, > you're

Re: [Catalyst] Which model is better, DBI or DBIC::Schema?

2009-04-28 Thread Kieren Diment
On 28/04/2009, at 7:38 PM, Malloy wrote: Which model is better, DBI or DBIC::Schema? Thanks. Err, they do different things. Use the latter if you want to use DBIx::Class (recommended) or the former if you want to use plain DBI. You can also use both in the same app if you like. ___

[Catalyst] Which model is better, DBI or DBIC::Schema?

2009-04-28 Thread Malloy
Which model is better, DBI or DBIC::Schema? Thanks. -- Jack Malloy ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev

Re: [Catalyst] The Netiquette thread (OT)

2009-04-28 Thread Simon Wilcox
On 28/4/09 09:59, Ian Wells wrote: Top posting is bad. Bottom posting is bad. Actually, it's mostly the inconsistency that's bad. I'm on several lists that work just fine with top posting. These are the basics of old-fashioned usenet netiquette, of which there are more comprehensive guides

RE: [Catalyst] The Netiquette thread (OT)

2009-04-28 Thread Merlyn Kline
> These are the basics of old-fashioned usenet netiquette, of which Thank you Ian. Might I also add that it helps to remember that not everyone here is a native English speaker. Merlyn ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys

[Catalyst] The Netiquette thread (OT)

2009-04-28 Thread Ian Wells
People: Top posting is bad. Bottom posting is bad. When quoting a previous message: - Remove as much of the original message as you can. (And if the message you send still has the mailing list footer quoted within it, you're clearly not trying.) - Put replies to points in the message *undernea