[Catalyst] Requirements for Catalyst

2009-02-21 Thread Octavian Râşniţă
Hello, It is very clear that a Catalyst app can't run on a shared host, but it requires either a dedicated server or a VPS. I am searching for web space providers that offer VPS and I've seen that they use to set their tariff plans mainly on the guaranteed memory, but I don't know which would

Re: [Catalyst] Requirements for Catalyst

2009-02-21 Thread Jonathan Rockway
* On Sat, Feb 21 2009, Octavian Râşniţă wrote: > Hello, > > It is very clear that a Catalyst app can't run on a shared host, but > it requires either a dedicated server or a VPS. > I am searching for web space providers that offer VPS and I've seen > that they use to set their tariff plans mainly o

Re: [Catalyst] Requirements for Catalyst

2009-02-21 Thread Ashley
On Feb 21, 2009, at 2:21 PM, Octavian Râşniţă wrote: It is very clear that a Catalyst app can't run on a shared host, but it requires either a dedicated server or a VPS. I've been running four or five Cat apps on shared hosting for 3 years. I wouldn't do it for a business but it's fine for r

Re: [Catalyst] Requirements for Catalyst

2009-02-21 Thread Andrew Rodland
On Saturday 21 February 2009 05:04:54 pm Jonathan Rockway wrote: > * On Sat, Feb 21 2009, Octavian Râşniţă wrote: > > Hello, > > > > It is very clear that a Catalyst app can't run on a shared host, but > > it requires either a dedicated server or a VPS. > > I am searching for web space providers th

Re: [Catalyst] Requirements for Catalyst

2009-02-21 Thread Ashley
On Feb 21, 2009, at 3:04 PM, Jonathan Rockway wrote: We run lots of Catalyst apps on the smallest Linode. I think they give us something like 340M of RAM. This is enough. I use a 512M Slicehost for jrock.us, which runs my mail server and a few Catalyst applications I know this is getti

Re: [Catalyst] Requirements for Catalyst

2009-02-21 Thread Jonathan Rockway
* On Sat, Feb 21 2009, Ashley wrote: > On Feb 21, 2009, at 3:04 PM, Jonathan Rockway wrote: >> We run lots of Catalyst apps on the smallest Linode. I think they >> give >> us something like 340M of RAM. This is enough. >> >> I use a 512M Slicehost for jrock.us, which runs my mail server and a >>

Re: [Catalyst] Requirements for Catalyst

2009-02-21 Thread bill hauck
--- On Sun, 2/22/09, Jonathan Rockway wrote: > Slicehost does have one killer feature that Lindoe > doesn't -- nightly, > weekly, and on-demand full-system backups. This saved my > life when I > upgraded Debian Stable last weekend and it went horribly > wrong due to > the crappy version of Xen

Re: [Catalyst] Requirements for Catalyst

2009-02-22 Thread Ashley
On Feb 21, 2009, at 9:42 PM, bill hauck wrote: I'd suggest getting a month with Linode and seeing how you like it. Thanks much to you and JRock. I took the plunge and it's pretty easy-- if a bit verbose installing everything--after all. On a side note I saw a preview of a Catalyst-centric ho

Re: [Catalyst] Requirements for Catalyst

2009-02-22 Thread Octavian Râsnita
From: "Jonathan Rockway" * On Sat, Feb 21 2009, Ashley wrote: On Feb 21, 2009, at 3:04 PM, Jonathan Rockway wrote: We run lots of Catalyst apps on the smallest Linode. I think they give us something like 340M of RAM. This is enough. I use a 512M Slicehost for jrock.us, which runs my mail se

Re: [Catalyst] Requirements for Catalyst

2009-02-22 Thread Chisel Wright
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 09:42:59PM -0800, bill hauck wrote: > I'd suggest getting a month with Linode and seeing how you like it. I've recently picked up a linode VPS and have been quite happy with it. I've put Ubuntu 8.10 on mine. I found it pretty easy to get up and running and haven't had any

Re: [Catalyst] Requirements for Catalyst

2009-02-24 Thread Jason Kohles
On Feb 22, 2009, at 12:10 AM, Jonathan Rockway wrote: Oh yeah, one other option is Amazon EC2. They are very scalable (a perl script can buy you a new machine on demand), but not quite as friendly (if your instance crashes, all your data is lost). They are also kind of expensive. If you use

Re: [Catalyst] Requirements for Catalyst

2009-02-24 Thread Scott McWhirter
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 13:38, Jason Kohles wrote: > EC2 has persistent storage now (now meaning as of last April), so you can > have volumes on your hosts that are backed by S3, so you don't lose your > data when the instance goes away. EBS volumes aren't backed on S3. They are simply persistent

Re: [Catalyst] Requirements for Catalyst

2009-02-24 Thread Roland Lammel
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 00:04, Jonathan Rockway wrote: > * On Sat, Feb 21 2009, Octavian Râşniţă wrote: >> Hello, >> >> It is very clear that a Catalyst app can't run on a shared host, but >> it requires either a dedicated server or a VPS. >> I am searching for web space providers that offer VPS a

Re: [Catalyst] Requirements for Catalyst

2009-02-25 Thread Rodrigo
> > > Cat is using only approx. 50MB of memory, which is great. Although we > do no great deal of caching yet. But this will be done using dbd or > memcached anyway, so it won't increase the memsize of cat. > And we have yet to find any memleaks, the app is running for months with > now... > Is th

Re: [Catalyst] Requirements for Catalyst

2009-02-25 Thread Neo [GC]
Octavian Râşniţă schrieb: Could be 256 MB of memory enough? Or 512? Or I would need 1 GB or more if I would like to run a Catalyst app? That Catalyst app would use a MySQL database, and it would have around 100 tables, and 20 - 30 Catalyst controllers. Memory requirements depend heavily on y

Re: [Catalyst] Requirements for Catalyst

2009-02-25 Thread J. Shirley
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 7:42 AM, Neo [GC] wrote: > > Octavian Râşniţă schrieb: > >> Could be 256 MB of memory enough? Or 512? Or I would need 1 GB or more if >> I would like to run a Catalyst app? >> >> That Catalyst app would use a MySQL database, and it would have around 100 >> tables, and 20 -

Re: [Catalyst] Requirements for Catalyst

2009-02-25 Thread Bill Moseley
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 08:01:55AM -0800, J. Shirley wrote: > As other people mentioned, you likely have a memory leak or some other > problem. I have a much larger application than yours, and my memory usage > doesn't grow. > > Please don't spread FUD saying that Catalyst "literally explodes".

Re: [Catalyst] Requirements for Catalyst

2009-02-25 Thread Joel Bernstein
2009/2/25 Bill Moseley : > On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 08:01:55AM -0800, J. Shirley wrote: >> As other people mentioned, you likely have a memory leak or some other >> problem.  I have a much larger application than yours, and my memory usage >> doesn't grow. >> >> Please don't spread FUD saying that C

Re: [Catalyst] Requirements for Catalyst

2009-02-25 Thread J. Shirley
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Joel Bernstein wrote: > 2009/2/25 Bill Moseley : > > On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 08:01:55AM -0800, J. Shirley wrote: > >> As other people mentioned, you likely have a memory leak or some other > >> problem. I have a much larger application than yours, and my memory >

Re: [Catalyst] Requirements for Catalyst

2009-02-25 Thread Bill Moseley
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 05:47:15PM +, Joel Bernstein wrote: > > The large change in memory after first request seems inevitable. I'm not sure it's inevitable, but my assumption is that the first request allocates some memory that is then reused for subsequent requests. The only thing to supp

Re: [Catalyst] Requirements for Catalyst

2009-02-25 Thread Octavian Râsnita
From: "Bill Moseley" On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 05:47:15PM +, Joel Bernstein wrote: The large change in memory after first request seems inevitable. Please tell me how can I measure the memory used by a Catalyst app. Thanks. Octavian ___ List: