I'm running… 6(?) fastcgi Cat apps on Dreamhost. These are some pointers
(I'll put them in the wiki later if I can).

 * Name your app "dispatch.fcgi"
   Their long-process killing script respects that name much better.

* You have to enable fastcgi in the panel for that domain. It's not on by default.

* If you do have more than one of /anything/ dynamic, create a separate user to run it. Their process allotments work by user, not by account. So two Cat apps on one user will probably cause them to get killed often. If each has their own user, much better accord.

 * You can do things like perl -cw ~/domain.xyz/dispatch.fcgi
to see (some) errors that will otherwise get sucked up for three minutes waiting for the fastcgi process to end.

* Set up your own local/lib and install all your own modules. I like DreamHost but now and then they are pretty admin challenged and have long out of date, or /broken/, versions of modules in the regular @INC.

* Do a touch ~/domain.xyz/dispatch.fcgi to reset your app. killall dispatch.fcgi for last resorts.

* 90% of the problems I've had were related to DB traffic external to my stuff (just guessing: some mutt using 18 PHP scripts hogging all the connections). If you start a mysql shell and do a simple query, sometimes that's enough to unlock hanging connections.

* The default values for some of the Session modules are BAD!!! They create a new, large, session value in the /tmp dir for every single visitor and can quickly lock up a box for you and everyone on it. Running the install tests alone can leave a couple of gigabytes of trash in /tmp. Yes, I did this. No, I didn't file a bug report yet. I am BAD!!! :( Make sure to specify your own session file paths and it's best to do something like ~/etc/sessions… instead of /tmp which has hard wired disk limits.

-Ashley

On Jan 5, 2008, at 4:11 PM, Jay Varner wrote:
Just to throw in, I love Dreamhost but I was never able to get my
Catalyst app to deploy with them on FastCGI. I've moved on to A Small
Orange and had my app up and running within hours of having my account
set up. There were some Modules I had trouble installing from CPAN,
but A Small Orange would install the the mods for me so fast I didn't
get to take a break.

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   2. Re: Re: "Rails is a Ghetto" (Daniel McBrearty)
   3. What can C::P::Cache cache? (Joe Landman)
   4. Re: What can C::P::Cache cache? (Joe Landman)
   5. Re: Web hosting? (Martin Ellison)
   6. strange error when running a Catalyst app (Octavian Rasnita)
   7. utf8 / pg double encoding problem (Daniel McBrearty)
   8. CPAN install without test? [ot] (Martin Ellison)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 16:21:18 +0100
From: "Zbigniew Lukasiak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Catalyst] ResultSet renderer?
To: "The elegant MVC web framework" <catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk>
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On Jan 4, 2008 11:20 PM, Bruce J Keeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Greetings, Catalystos!

I'm looking to find or create a canned solution for rendering
DBIx::Class::ResultSets as paged, sortable HTML tables.  All of the
examples I've seen do this manually, foreaching through the resultset, spitting out <tr>s and <td>s and so on. Seems like the sort of wheel
that shouldn't need to be reinvented.

You might have a look at Catalyst::Example::InstantCRUD.  It is a bit
dated now - but I am working on a new versions of it (based on
HTML::FormFu instead of HTML::Widget).

Cheers,
Zbigniew
http://perlalchemy.blogspot.com



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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 20:17:17 +0100
From: "Daniel McBrearty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Catalyst] Re: "Rails is a Ghetto"
To: "The elegant MVC web framework" <catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk>
Message-ID:
        <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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wow!

that's some rant. couldn't read it all the way, but half was enough ...



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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2008 16:18:22 -0500
From: Joe Landman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Catalyst] What can C::P::Cache cache?
To: The elegant MVC web framework <catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Sounds like a strange question, but I want to know if I can put a
complex data structure like a hash in there. Do I need to serialize it
first?

Alternatively, if it only handles scalars, that is also useful to know.

Thanks.


--
Joe Landman
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2008 16:33:29 -0500
From: Joe Landman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Catalyst] What can C::P::Cache cache?
To: The elegant MVC web framework <catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Joe Landman wrote:
Sounds like a strange question, but I want to know if I can put a
complex data structure like a hash in there. Do I need to serialize it
first?

Alternatively, if it only handles scalars, that is also useful to know.

Thanks.

Well ... never mind. I figured it out for my self. Short version, the
following appears to work nicely:

     my $serialized_menu = $c->cache->get('menu');
     if ($serialized_menu)
       {
        @menu   = @{$serialized_menu};
$c->log->debug('Root::_get_navbar menu retrieved from cache');
       }
       else
       {
        $c->log->debug('Root::_get_navbar rebuilding menu');

        # rebuild menu
        $c->cache->set('menu',[EMAIL PROTECTED]);
       }

For some reason the manual's

        unless ( ... ) {

        } ...

construct did not work for this case.

--

Joe Landman
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 05:41:56 +0800
From: "Martin Ellison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Catalyst] Web hosting?
To: "The elegant MVC web framework" <catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk>
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 00:10:00 +0200
From: "Octavian Rasnita" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Catalyst] strange error when running a Catalyst app
To: "The elegant MVC web framework" <catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
        reply-type=original

Hi,

I have a Catalyst app that used to work, and now I don't know why it doesn't
want to do that anymore.

I've created a new app as a test:

E:\web> catalyst MyTest
...
created "MyTest\script/mytest_cgi.pl"
created "MyTest\script/mytest_fastcgi.pl"
created "MyTest\script/mytest_server.pl"
created "MyTest\script/mytest_test.pl"
created "MyTest\script/mytest_create.pl"

E:\web> perl MyTest\script\mytest_test.pl
search_paths: Can't open E:\usr\site\lib\Config\Any\E:\INI.pm: Invalid
argument
at E:/usr/site/lib/Module/Pluggable/Object.pm line 162.
Compilation failed in require at E:/usr/site/lib/Catalyst/Test.pm line 90. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at MyTest\script\mytest_test.pl line 9.
E:\web>

It gave a similar error in the existing application when I run the
startup.pl file.

Have you seen this type of error before?

Thank you.

Octavian




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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 23:54:59 +0100
From: "Daniel McBrearty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Catalyst] utf8 / pg double encoding problem
To: "The elegant MVC web framework" <catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk>,
        [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID:
        <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

well I'm damned, I thought I had this stuff working squeaky clean. But
I was wrong. I actually had two bugs cancelling each other out -
usually.

Anyway, cut to the chase. The problem (the second bug that didn't show
until I cleared the first one) is a form submit that stores in the
database but ends up being double encoded when you get it back.

I am *certain* that UTF8 is getting sent over the wire to catalyst.

Here is some test data:

the data being submitted is this, with the two ways of representing it

abçöeü
unicode = 61 62 e7 f6 65 fc
utf8 = 61 62 (c3 a7) (c3 b6) 65 (c3 bc)

I have C::Plugin::Unicode. The database is a postgres 8.2 utf8 database.

Here is a snip of the controller code:

<snip>
sub sitetext_update : Chained('translator') Args(0){
  my ( $self, $c ) = @_;

  my $edit = $c->req->param('edit') || '';
  $c->log->debug( $edit );
  $c->log->dumper( $edit );
$c->log->debug( utf8::is_utf8( $edit ) ? "it's UTF8!" : "no it isn't UTF8" );

... ($edit gets written to the db here)

}
</snip>

Here's what we see, debug output:

<snip>
.------------------------------------- +--------------------------------------. | Parameter | Value | +------------------------------------- +--------------------------------------+ | edit | abçöeü | '------------------------------------- +--------------------------------------'
[debug] abçöeü
[debug] $VAR1 = "ab\x{c3}\x{a7}\x{c3}\x{b6}e\x{c3}\x{bc}";
[debug] it's UTF8!
</snip>

here is what happens in the pg logfile:

2008-01-05 23:21:45 CET LOG:  execute dbdpg_11: UPDATE
sitetext_translated SET content = $1, timestamp = $2 WHERE (
language_id = $3 AND sitetext_id = $4 )
2008-01-05 23:21:45 CET DETAIL:  parameters: $1 = 'abçöeü', $2 =
'2008-01-05 22:21:45', $3 = '22', $4 = 'ca'

and yes, it is double encoded when we retrieve the data.

Why? We have  good utf8 string coming in. It is flagged as such (odd
that the usual debug output doesn't display this right though ...). PG
expects UTF8 from the client. So why?

I use utf8columns on the database. I understand that this just tells
perl "this is utf8, you can flag it as such" when it gets data from
that column? so should not be an issue, right?

thanks if you can explain this. I really hope that an hour from now I
will be saying "DOH" and slapping ice cream into my forehead.

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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 07:16:38 +0800
From: "Martin Ellison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Catalyst] CPAN install without test? [ot]
To: "The elegant MVC web framework" <catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk>
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