Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Voice Retirement

2013-06-03 Thread Martin Sloan
Nice work, Josh! I've been forwarding to everyone I know in the industry via any contact I have. As far as current IE contact info, I'm sure IPExpert has a pretty nice list of IE's on file :-). Do they ever send out 'Alumni Updates'? I know I'd like to be kept in the loop on this if I hadn't he

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Voice Retirement

2013-06-03 Thread Josh Petro
Hello all I've sent the link to the change.com petition to my entire Cisco account team which comprises multiple CCIEs. I've also connected with a bunch of my other contractor companies, so the word is out. Many of the people I've been talking to feel the same way we do about what Cisco has done. I

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Voice Retirement

2013-06-03 Thread Mann Chaddha
oice to CCIE Collaboration (m george) >3. Re: CCIE Voice Retirement (Martin Sloan) > > > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 22:10:03 -0500 > From: Bill Lake > To: Martin Sloan > Cc: "ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com" , > be...@cisco.com >

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Voice Retirement

2013-06-02 Thread Martin Sloan
Awesome! On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 11:10 PM, Bill Lake wrote: > Dear Ben, > > In the last several years I have installed many Cisco Telepresence > 3200/3000, 1300, 500 and 9200/9000 series systems. I have done work with > personal video conferencing systems on executive desktops. I have also been

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Voice Retirement

2013-06-01 Thread Bill Lake
Dear Ben, In the last several years I have installed many Cisco Telepresence 3200/3000, 1300, 500 and 9200/9000 series systems. I have done work with personal video conferencing systems on executive desktops. I have also been involved in many installations of VoIP systems from around 50 to over 3

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Voice Retirement

2013-05-31 Thread Martin Sloan
Peter, Thank you and I'm glad you agree. To quote Somphol Boonjing when I used his post earlier: "Please feel free to adopt it as your own. It is all the result of our collective effort." I hope you can get others involved! Marty On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Dr VoIP wrote: > I totall

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Voice Retirement

2013-05-31 Thread Dr VoIP
I totally agree with this posting and would like to repost it. I have spent more money on CISCO certification study, materials, preparation, practice exams, classes then I did on a four year college degree! I took the CCIE written and am close to taking the lab again! This is indeed very troubl

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Voice Retirement

2013-05-31 Thread Vic
Great job Sent from my iPhone On May 31, 2013, at 4:02 PM, Martin Sloan wrote: > Ben, > > I'm writing you this morning to express my great disappointment in regard to > Cisco's recent announcement to retire the CCIE Voice track with no reasonable > upgrade path to the CCIE Collaboration. I

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Voice Retirement

2013-05-31 Thread Martin Sloan
Ben, I'm writing you this morning to express my great disappointment in regard to Cisco's recent announcement to retire the CCIE Voice track with no reasonable upgrade path to the CCIE Collaboration. I know that you're well informed as to all the arguments which are being made against this decisi