Re: [ccp4bb] geometry problems with sugars

2010-04-21 Thread Debreczeni, Judit
I've seen flattening of the C1 atom recently in Coot - in that case the reason was that, as the density wasn't really clear around the sugar, I'd fitted it 180 degrees rotated around the ASN-ND2---C1-NAG bond. In such cases Coot happily flattens the sugar ring such that C1 C2 C3 C5 O5 are in a

Re: [ccp4bb] geometry problems with sugars

2010-04-21 Thread Garib Murshudov
As I see there is no chirality definition for NAG-ASN link (perhaps there should be but then people will be unhappy even more). Only reason i can see for this flattening is conflict between geometry and electron density. Your example shows that even if electron density is weak it may play a

Re: [ccp4bb] sigma cutoff for fitting waters in model

2010-04-21 Thread Dirk Kostrewa
Dear Tassos, Am 19.04.10 17:31, schrieb Anastassis Perrakis: snip The sigma issue a bit more complicated. What we call usually sigma is the root mean square deviation (rmsd) of the map. Lets first recall, that the variation within the protein region is quite large, while the solvent is

Re: [ccp4bb] geometry problems with sugars

2010-04-21 Thread Paul Emsley
Garib Murshudov wrote: As I see there is no chirality definition for NAG-ASN link (perhaps there should be but then people will be unhappy even more). Only reason i can see for this flattening is conflict between geometry and electron density. Your example shows that even if electron density

Re: [ccp4bb] geometry problems with sugars

2010-04-21 Thread Garib Murshudov
JED's example is very illustrative and it shows that chirality may need to be added to this link definition. then sugar validation may be easier (at least ASN-NAG with only one sugar). If chirality is wrong then rotate around ND2-C1bond as a rigid group. Just like you do with rotamers.

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Re: [ccp4bb] sigma cutoff for fitting waters in model

2010-04-21 Thread James Holton
Like so many rules of thumb, the 3-sigma fofc and 1-sigma 2fofc is a reasonable guideline that works very well in most cases despite being based on a flawed assumption. The 0.3% chance of a peak being above 3 sigmas assumes that the histogram of electron density values is Gaussian. It is

[ccp4bb] precipitation of protein in elution buffer

2010-04-21 Thread peter hudson
Hello all I apolozize for a off topic question on BB. I am working with small proetin-protein complex, each have molecular weight 10kDa. I elute this N-terminal His-tagged complex through Ni-NTA resin in 50mM of NaH2Po4, 0.3M of NaCl, 5% glycerol and 250mM of Imidazole.Similarly, Lysis buffer

[ccp4bb] degradation of protein durring freez thaw

2010-04-21 Thread Jhon Thomas
Hello BB I apolozize an off topic query. I am working with small proetin-protein complex of 24kDa. I purify this N-terminal His-tagged complex through tylon resin in 20mM of Tris pH-8.0, 0.3M NaCl . After purification this protein complex are dialysed in 20mM tris pH=8.0.I am able to purify

Re: [ccp4bb] precipitation of protein in elution buffer

2010-04-21 Thread Kornelius Zeth
Hi Peter, we had a four similar cases recently. What really helped us was to add urea in amounts of 1-2 M. We tested the possible influence on secondary structure by limited proteolysis and CD/Trp-fluorescence and it seemed the protein maintained the same overall conformation as in the absence