Re: [ccp4bb] protein crystals or salt crystals

2013-02-08 Thread RHYS GRINTER
They look like other phosphate crystals that I've seen, but have to shoot them to tell. From: CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Nat Echols [nathaniel.ech...@gmail.com] Sent: 07 February 2013 22:30 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject:

Re: [ccp4bb] Molecular cloning software for linux

2013-02-08 Thread Darren Hart
Try http://gentle.magnusmanske.de/ Resembles VectorNTI, is free, and works on Linux, Windows and Mac (although I've only used it on XP). Seems quite powerful, but not polished like the more commercial solutions. Darren On 08/02/13 05:16, Theresa Hsu wrote: Dear all Is there any good

Re: [ccp4bb] Molecular cloning software for linux

2013-02-08 Thread Luca Jovine
On Feb 8, 2013, at 05:16 , Theresa Hsu wrote: Dear all Is there any good molecular cloning software for linux? It should read plasmid constructs in Genbank format, do assembly of plasmid sequencing results, display the sequencing trace and highlight regions where there are mutations based on

Re: [ccp4bb] protein crystals or salt crystals

2013-02-08 Thread Patrick Shaw Stewart
Good morning Frank On a related idea, do you typically use a limited number of buffers (buffer plus salt) for the final purification step of your proteins? If so, do you have a chart of where salt crystals may appear in the screens that you use most often? Could you put that chart on your web

Re: [ccp4bb] protein crystals or salt crystals

2013-02-08 Thread Sylvia Fanucchi
I didn't see the picture that you attached but if you have more than one crystal you could always run one on a gel to see if it runs the expected size of your protein From: Patrick Shaw Stewart [mailto:patr...@douglas.co.uk] Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 11:47

Re: [ccp4bb] protein crystals or salt crystals

2013-02-08 Thread Frank von Delft
Hi Patrick Did you mean that to go to BB? To put pressure on us? :) We've not done that analysis, no - good idea though. No standard purification buffer, though most commonly it's HEPES pH 7.5ish, varying amounts of NaCl and glycerol. Like most people, I assume. There certainly are

Re: [ccp4bb] protein crystals or salt crystals

2013-02-08 Thread Evgeny Osipov
There a lot of articles about salt-protein crystals in google - check them first. How to check crystals: 1) X-ray check (most obvious way) 2) izid dye 3)dry it (protein crystal will break apart) 4)crush it (if you dont know how to check by this method - try to grow and break lysozyme or another

Re: [ccp4bb] protein crystals or salt crystals

2013-02-08 Thread Ed. Pozharski
Patrick, Something related: http://strucbio.biologie.uni-konstanz.de/ccp4wiki/index.php/Conditions_prone_to_salt_crystallization Truth be told, we recently had a major breakthrough with the peg/fluoride condition I came to consider a useless salt crystal generator.  So tables like these are

Re: [ccp4bb] protein crystals or salt crystals

2013-02-08 Thread Raji Edayathumangalam
Like Nat points out, I suspect they are phosphate crystals. I have seen those before. And I agree 100% with Frank, for once. Why would I risk making any guesses no matter how salt like my crystals look after all the time it took me to clone, express, purify and crystallize my precious protein. It

Re: [ccp4bb] protein crystals or salt crystals

2013-02-08 Thread Edward A. Berry
Raji Edayathumangalam wrote: (3) Inconclusive no diffraction situation, which could indicate a million things including the possibility that your cryoprotectant was sub-optimal for data collection done using flash cryocooled/flash frozen crystals in a stream of gaseous nitrogen. But before

Re: [ccp4bb] protein crystals or salt crystals

2013-02-08 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Fri, 2013-02-08 at 09:13 -0500, Edward A. Berry wrote: I like to take a 5-sec 180* oscillation which gives plenty of spots in a nice pattern for a salt crystal Second that It also confuses bystanders really well - what a strange diffraction pattern - half salt (small unit cell) / half

Re: [ccp4bb] protein crystals or salt crystals

2013-02-08 Thread David Roberts
So, if you are bored and have nothing else to do (which is how we all are at times; kidding), can you set up a control experiment with everything in the crystal dip except protein (so buffer and whatever)? I know protein plays a role in the process, but I have done this before when I had

Re: [ccp4bb] protein crystals or salt crystals

2013-02-08 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Fri, 2013-02-08 at 14:53 +0400, Evgeny Osipov wrote: Protein crystals behave rather as gelatine and not as solid I'd have to disagree on that. Protein crystals are fragile but not soft. If your crystals are like gelatine it's unusual. It has been demonstrated that elastic properties of

Re: [ccp4bb] protein crystals or salt crystals

2013-02-08 Thread Jacob Keller
I'd have to disagree on that. Protein crystals are fragile but not soft. If your crystals are like gelatine it's unusual. It has been demonstrated that elastic properties of protein crystals are similar to organic solids Interesting--do you have a reference quickly on hand for those

Re: [ccp4bb] protein crystals or salt crystals

2013-02-08 Thread Colin Nave
Journal of Crystal Growth 232 (2001) 498-501 and references therein Available at http://pages.physics.cornell.edu/~rthorne/publications/caylorjcg01.pdf Colin From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Jacob Keller Sent: 08 February 2013 14:57 To: ccp4bb Subject: Re:

Re: [ccp4bb] protein crystals or salt crystals

2013-02-08 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Fri, 2013-02-08 at 09:57 -0500, Jacob Keller wrote: do you have a reference quickly on hand http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8129868 and references therein http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022024801010922 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1300955/ The last

Re: [ccp4bb] protein crystals or salt crystals

2013-02-08 Thread R. M. Garavito
Ed, Protein crystals are fragile but not soft. If your crystals are like gelatine it's unusual. I hate to disagree with the disagreement, but there are many exceptions to this rule. I have seen many protein crystals that are quite malleable and bendable. One protein produced rod-shaped

Re: [ccp4bb] protein crystals or salt crystals

2013-02-08 Thread Ed Pozharski
Michael, It seems to me we have no disagreement, as we both say that it is *unusual* for protein crystals to be non-fragile. Furthermore, my objection is to gelatin characterization. I may be, as is my custom, wrong, but in terms of elasticity gels are purely entropic. Protein crystals, even

Re: [ccp4bb] Off Topic- Cystine Detection

2013-02-08 Thread Christian Roth
Am Mittwoch 06 Februar 2013 17:10:35 schrieb Yuri Pompeu: Dear All, I am trying to probe the existence of a disulfide bond on the surface of my protein. I have attempted Ellman´s and my results were not as clear as I would have hoped for. I am not a sulfur/cysteine chemist and would

[ccp4bb] CeBEM-CCP4 Macromolecular Crystallography Workshop 2013 at Montevideo: Application deadline extended

2013-02-08 Thread Alejandro Buschiazzo
Dear Colleagues, Due to the application deadline originally scheduled for February 10, overlapping with Summer holiday dates in several South American countries, we have decided to extend the course application deadline UNTIL FEBRUARY 17, 2013. We invite all of you interested in this