[ccp4bb] bioNMR research scientist position available

2021-05-27 Thread Dirk Bussiere
Dear colleagues, I realize that this is peripheral to CCP4, but we are looking for a research scientist in biological NMR spectroscopy to join our large multi-disciplinary Molecular Pharmacology department. It's a great opportunity to work with dedicated, innovative scientists focusing on

Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] (R)MS

2021-05-27 Thread Sweet, Robert
Sorry abt. the result with the imaginary (-1^0.5) Landrover salesperson. I recall in the '60s that small-molecule (in the '60s that is all there were) would convert the B to r.m.s deviation, but it didn't stick. Bob From: CCP4 bulletin board on behalf of Hughes,

Re: [ccp4bb] Analysis of NMR ensembles

2021-05-27 Thread Jon Cooper
A bit late, I know, but a bit more googling gave me this site which I don't think has been mentioned so far: http://old.protein.bio.unipd.it/mobi/ Given the pdb code, it is a one click job to get a pdb file with the "B-factors changed to averaged Scaled Distance x 100" and the resulting

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] (R)MS

2021-05-27 Thread Hughes, Jonathan
hey gerald, yes, and surely it would be better than a u³ -based parameter (if it's the dimensionality arising from a symmetric covariance matrix that's the problem). actually, the guy on the beach was a greek-australian ex-cell biologist who now works for a bank helping it to rake in money from

Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] (R)MS

2021-05-27 Thread Gerard Bricogne
Dear Jonathan, You are right of course, as e.g. the standard deviations are in the same unit as the measurements (or averages) themselves. The dynamic ranges are also more manageable. I couldn't help wanting to find something to say as a diversion to yet another day marked by a stiff dose of

Re: [ccp4bb] (R)MS

2021-05-27 Thread Gergely Katona
Dear Jonathan, In 1D sd may be intuitive, but in 3D it is not so much. The square root of a symmetric covariance matrix is not universally defined and it is not intuitive to me. Best wishes, Gergely Gergely Katona, Professor, Chairman of the Chemistry Program Council Department of Chemistry

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] (R)MS

2021-05-27 Thread Hughes, Jonathan
hi gerard, yes, but that's like saying that the height of a human being is 1.8 m +/- 0.04 m². and if (thanks to robert!*) "B = 8π2 where u is the r.m.s. displacement of a scattering center, and <...> denotes time averaging" it would seem to me that we would be able to interpret things MUCH

Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] (R)MS

2021-05-27 Thread Gerard Bricogne
Dear Jonathan, Isn't it six of one and sqrt(36) of the other ? Best wishes, Gerard. -- On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 04:52:39PM +, Hughes, Jonathan wrote: > hey! > thank y'all for the informative (and swift!) answers! but, if the B factor > (as defined) appears in a mathematical formulation,

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] (R)MS

2021-05-27 Thread Hughes, Jonathan
hey! thank y'all for the informative (and swift!) answers! but, if the B factor (as defined) appears in a mathematical formulation, that doesn't make it an "appropriate" parameter for mobility/uncertainty. wouldn't √B be better, in the same way that, for humans, standard deviation (RMSD) is a

Re: [ccp4bb] (R)MS

2021-05-27 Thread Ian Tickle
Hi Jonathan It's historical, it's simply how it appears in the expression for the Debye-Waller factor, i.e. exp(-B sin^2(theta)/lambda^2). So it must have the same units as lambda^2. Cheers -- Ian On Thu, 27 May 2021 at 13:25, Hughes, Jonathan < jon.hug...@bot3.bio.uni-giessen.de> wrote: >

[ccp4bb] Crystallography positions at Exscientia

2021-05-27 Thread Simone Culurgioni
Dear all, We are looking for experienced Crystallographers to join the Discovery Biology department at Exscientia. The Discovery Biology team in Exscientia is responsible for enabling small-molecule therapeutic projects and integrates with the Artificial Intelligence (AI) driven drug discovery

Re: [ccp4bb] post-doc position at KU Leuven, ligand-gated ion channels

2021-05-27 Thread Chris Ulens
A post-doctoral position is available at the Laboratory of Prof. Chris Ulens, KU Leuven, Belgium (http://www.xtal.be). The research in the Laboratory of Structural Neurobiology is aimed at understanding the molecular mechanism of ligand-gated ion channels. Our methods rely on X-ray

Re: [ccp4bb] (R)MS

2021-05-27 Thread Tim Gruene
Hello Jon, Wikipedia has plenty of information on the Debye-Waller factor: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debye%E2%80%93Waller_factor Best, Tim On Thu, 27 May 2021 12:25:06 + "Hughes, Jonathan" wrote: > o yes! but maybe the crystal people could explain to me why the B > factor is the

[ccp4bb] (R)MS

2021-05-27 Thread Hughes, Jonathan
o yes! but maybe the crystal people could explain to me why the B factor is the variance (with units of Ų) rather than the standard deviation (i.e. RMS, with units of Å) when, to my simple mind, the latter would seem be the more appropriate description of variability in space? cheers jon Von:

[ccp4bb] clustering large number of ligands by position relative to the receptor

2021-05-27 Thread Sorin Draga
Hello everyone, While this is not exactly a crystallography question, I do think that most of you are well versed in structural analysis. The problem: I have a very large number of ligands (>100.000) resulting from blind docking against a certain receptor. Due to the large number, this can not be

Re: [ccp4bb] Analysis of NMR ensembles

2021-05-27 Thread Pearce, N.M. (Nick)
If you want something comparable to B-factors don’t forget to put the MSF in the B-factor column, not the RMSF. Will change the scaling of the tube radius considerably! Nick On 27 May 2021, at 11:16, Harry Powell - CCP4BB

Re: [ccp4bb] Analysis of NMR ensembles

2021-05-27 Thread Rasmus Fogh
Dear Dale, It is more complex than just 'flexibility', but then it is always more complicated. Here are the main possibilities for undetermined regions: -1- fast, free movement - signals are easy to see, have 'random-coil' chemical shifts, often overlap, and there are no NOEs -2-

Re: [ccp4bb] Analysis of NMR ensembles

2021-05-27 Thread Harry Powell - CCP4BB
Cool… Purely for visualisation this does look like the approved CCP4 way - Harry > On 27 May 2021, at 10:01, Stuart McNicholas > <19a0c5f649e5-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk> wrote: > > Drawing style (right menu in display table) -> Worm scaled by -> Worm > scaled by NMR variability > >

Re: [ccp4bb] Analysis of NMR ensembles

2021-05-27 Thread Stuart McNicholas
Drawing style (right menu in display table) -> Worm scaled by -> Worm scaled by NMR variability in ccp4mg? This changes the size of the worm but not the colour. On Thu, 27 May 2021 at 09:56, Harry Powell - CCP4BB <193323b1e616-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk> wrote: > > Anyway, thanks to all

Re: [ccp4bb] Analysis of NMR ensembles

2021-05-27 Thread Harry Powell - CCP4BB
Anyway, thanks to all those who answered my original question - especially Tristan: Chimerax (+ his attached script) Michal, Scott: Theseus (https://theobald.brandeis.edu/theseus/) Bernhard: Molmol (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8744573/ ) Rasmus CYRANGE

Re: [ccp4bb] CCP4BB Digest - 25 May 2021 to 26 May 2021 (#2021-147)

2021-05-27 Thread James Krieger
For the NMR structure ensemble, you could calculate root mean square fluctuations (RMSFs) and put them into the B factor column. This is a fairly common analysis within molecular dynamics software. You could also use the ProDy Python API to do this. ProDy also has command line apps including

Re: [ccp4bb] Analysis of NMR ensembles

2021-05-27 Thread Harry Powell - CCP4BB
Hi This is why I put “rigid” and “flexible” in quotes in my original post - to allow people to put whatever interpretation on them that they chose (within limits)! Of course, it’s always best to try to use the correct terms in a scientific discussion, but we all use shorthand; e.g., in