Re: [ccp4bb] High clash score in refinement of cryoEM structure

2024-07-25 Thread Edward Berry
To improve the clashscore you could try increasing the value of the nonbonded_weight parameter, starting at 1000 (which I understand at one time was the default in phenix.refine, but recently for me already gives a huge decrease in clashscore). Since this will be avoiding clashes at the

Re: [ccp4bb] help with wwPDB validation warning

2024-06-14 Thread Edward Berry
This old message claims that / = "weighted" by s. If counting error is significant, s will be larger for stronger reflections, which are likely to have small I/s, so in general / > unweighted . As Werten points out. However this seems to be the opposite of the OP's situation, if both

[ccp4bb] OFF_TOPIC: Should you be worried about BPA from plastics? Yes, if you store alkaline reagents in polycarbonate bottles!

2022-01-30 Thread Edward Berry
After using the same reagents for the Lowry assay and seeing the color yield in the standard curve gradually decreasing year by year, we decided to make new reagents last year. Sure enough the color yield was restored, but in the next assay a few weeks later the blank was unusually high. after

Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Antwort: Re: [ccp4bb] chain on 2-fold axis?

2021-08-27 Thread Edward Berry
upper limit for the molecular weight of this molecule? David Cobessi solved a structure with heme on a crystallographic 2-fold. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11752777 Heme is almost, but not quite, 2-fold symmetric. eab Peer Mittl wrote on 8/27/2021 9:55 AM: Dear Vaheh, I agree with

[ccp4bb] pictures in emails

2021-07-18 Thread Edward Berry
Two suggestions for people sending pictures of electron density to the BB: 1. Reduce the size of the pictures- The two pictures in yesterday's email appear nice and small in my email client, but still illustrate what is being described. However they are actually 4032x3024 and 2040x1458 pixels,

Re: [ccp4bb] [EXTERNAL] [ccp4bb] CCP4I2: non standard ssh port for remote jobs

2020-06-08 Thread Edward Berry
>>> Michael Weyand 06/08/20 12:40 PM >>> Dear CCP4I2 experts, I'm trying to submit remote jobs via SSH within CCP4i2. Unfortunately, we use a non standard SSH port. So far, I'm not able to add any option within the CCP4I2 interface. For job submission, I need something to do like 'ssh -p

Re: [ccp4bb] [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] Completeness question

2020-05-30 Thread Edward Berry
>>> Ian Tickle 05/30/20 7:14 AM >>> >>(unless of course the completeness calculations were performed on two different reflection files)? EDS is in fact using a different dataset compared to the coordinates, when I submit the output reflections.cif produced by phenix, when the input I, sigma-I

Re: [ccp4bb] Average B factors with TLS

2020-04-07 Thread Edward Berry
Apologies for my previous email appearing to put words in Dale's mouth- I'm using my school's webmail and it apparently doesn't indicate the quoted text. The following is what I added: I think it is not just that the distribution is asymmetric and limited to positive numbers- it is due to

Re: [ccp4bb] [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] Average B factors with TLS

2020-04-07 Thread Edward Berry
>>> Dale Tronrud 04/07/20 12:37 PM >>> This topic has been discussing on the BB many times and a little searching should give you some long-winded answers (some written by me). The short version. If you refine a model with a common B factor for all atoms, or keep a very narrow

Re: [ccp4bb] [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] New phasing approach

2020-04-01 Thread Edward Berry
Bear in mind that position of the interferometer mirror or whatever would have to be constant to within a fraction of an Angstrom- breathe on the frame and it will warm ever so slightly- the expansion will change the phase of the reference beam by a few thousand wavelengths. A real engineering

Re: [ccp4bb] Fw:[ccp4bb] on Cell & Symmetry in coot

2016-12-09 Thread Edward Berry
CCP4 pdbset is very good for this. Find the symops in $CCP4/lib/data/symop.lib and use symgen and chain commands to create each with a different chain ID. The six-fold screw is generated by: X,Y,Z -Y,X-Y,2/3+Z Y-X,-X,1/3+Z -X,-Y,1/2+Z Y,Y-X,1/6+Z X-Y,X,5/6+Z X,Y,1+Z but the two-fold

Re: [ccp4bb] Superpose program in CCP4

2016-10-30 Thread Edward Berry
WenHe, I'm not sure if you want to superimpose a number of structures (as rmsd would imply) or just compare two structures. If you want a complete list of the distances between corresponding atoms in two pdb files of identical sequence, you can use the fortran program

Re: [ccp4bb] difference between polar angle and eulerian angle

2014-03-29 Thread Edward Berry
Thanks, Ian! I agree it may have to do with being used to computer graphics, where x,y,z are fixed and the coordinates rotate. But it still doesn't make sense: If the axes rotate along with the molecule, in the catenated operators of the polar angles, after the first two operators the z axis

Re: [ccp4bb] difference between polar angle and eulerian angle

2014-03-29 Thread Edward Berry
Edward Berry 03/29/14 5:22 PM Thanks, Ian! I agree it may have to do with being used to computer graphics, where x,y,z are fixed and the coordinates rotate. But it still doesn't make sense: -My mistake- in computer graphics x,y,z rotates with the atomic coordinates relative to screen

Re: [ccp4bb] off topic: a Python online course and others

2012-10-21 Thread Edward Berry
I took a look at the first four lessons at the first link, and I think there must be some mistake- this site is actually teaching BASIC. All these commands are valid syntax under say microsoft GWBasic or QuickBasic. But I think this Zed Shaw has been studying shell programming also and got

Re: [ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] crystallisation and mosaicity

2008-06-05 Thread Edward Berry
I think the important thing here is that liquid nitrogen in the lab tends to be exactly at its boiling point, since the temperature is maintained by continuously boiling off some of the N2. This means the only mechanism for heat absorption is through vaporization, depending on the latent heat of

Re: [ccp4bb] Merging CCP4i projects from two computers

2008-03-07 Thread Edward Berry
David J. Schuller wrote: ... even further back, file versioning in VMS might have been relevant and useful. But I am wandering. [:) Problem is both files are version *.*;1. I keep getting: -RMS-E-FEX, file already exists, not superseded %BACKUP-E-OPENOUT, error opening

Re: [ccp4bb] Does NCS bias a randomly-chosen test set (even if not enforced)? [ccp4bb] an over refined structure

2008-02-21 Thread Edward Berry
Dale Tronrud wrote: In summary, this argument depends on two assertions that you can argue with me about: 1) When a parameter is being used to fit the signal it was designed for, the resulting model develops predictive power and can lower both the working and free R. When a signal is

Re: [ccp4bb] an over refined structure

2008-02-12 Thread Edward Berry
Dale Tronrud wrote: In summary, this argument depends on two assertions that you can argue with me about: 1) When a parameter is being used to fit the signal it was designed for, the resulting model develops predictive power and can lower both the working and free R. When a

Re: [ccp4bb] Does NCS bias a randomly-chosen test set (even if not enforced)?

2008-02-11 Thread Edward Berry
Dirk Kostrewa wrote: Dear Ed, although, I don't think that a comparison of refinement in a higher and a lower symmetry space group is valid for general NCS cases, I will try to answer your question. Here are my thoughts for two different cases: (1) You have data to atomic resolution with

Re: [ccp4bb] Does NCS bias a randomly-chosen test set (even if not enforced)?

2008-02-09 Thread Edward Berry
Frank von Delft wrote: (I'm probably wrong, but I want someone to show me,and not with hand-waving arguments or invocation of crystallographic intuition or such) To convince me, someone needs to show that the expected value of the change in |Fo-Fc| at a test reflection upon a change in the

Re: [ccp4bb] an over refined structure

2008-02-07 Thread Edward Berry
to listen to anyone explain why I am wrong). Ed Edward Berry wrote: Dean Madden wrote: Hi Dirk, I disagree with your final sentence. Even if you don't apply NCS restraints/constraints during refinement, there is a serious risk of NCS contaminating your Rfree. Consider the limiting case in which

Re: [ccp4bb] an over refined structure

2008-02-07 Thread Edward Berry
Dean Madden wrote: Hi Dirk, I disagree with your final sentence. Even if you don't apply NCS restraints/constraints during refinement, there is a serious risk of NCS contaminating your Rfree. Consider the limiting case in which the NCS is produced simply by working in an artificially low

Re: [ccp4bb] an over refined structure

2008-02-07 Thread Edward Berry
reflections agree within R_Factor of each other, so about 20-30%. The experimental errors are pretty much negligible and overfitting is not a question about error bars; it is about how hard to push a round peg into a square hole? Cheers, Jon Edward Berry wrote: Actually the bottom lines below were my

Re: [ccp4bb] an over refined structure

2008-02-07 Thread Edward Berry
to believe Fc will move in the same direction, even in this artificial case. So Dirk's assertion still stands, I believe. Dean Edward Berry wrote: Actually the bottom lines below were my argument in the case that you DO apply strict NCS (although the argument runs into some questionable points

Re: [ccp4bb] Problem is creation of Symmetry molecule PDB

2007-12-26 Thread Edward Berry
Sampath Natarajan wrote: Dear all, I solved a structure with four molecules in the assymetric unit which form a dodecameric oligomeric structure in the biological process. I need to create the symmetrical molecules to find out the cavity size of the entire molecule. I tried in coot, but I

Re: [ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] Occupancy refinement of substrate using refmac5

2007-12-18 Thread Edward Berry
17, 2007 2:24 PM, Edward Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the correlation between occupancy and B-factor depends also on the size of the ligand (relative to resolution). Bob Stroud, I think, has estimated occupancy by comparing the integrated

Re: [ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] Occupancy refinement of substrate using refmac5

2007-12-17 Thread Edward Berry
I think the correlation between occupancy and B-factor depends also on the size of the ligand (relative to resolution). Bob Stroud, I think, has estimated occupancy by comparing the integrated electron density of the ligand with that of a well-defined, isolated water (assumed to be at unit

Re: [ccp4bb] Protein-detergent micelle sizes

2007-11-20 Thread Edward Berry
In case you end up compiling your own list, here is one entry: von Jagow and co-workers (Biochim Biophys Acta. 1977 462(3):549-58.) used tritiated Triton X-100 to measure the binding to Complex III 5. In accordance with the high polarity the amount of bound detergent is relatively low, it

Re: [ccp4bb] carving up maps (was re: pymol help)

2007-10-29 Thread Edward Berry
This is not such a problem when using the old Map-cover command in O, because the cut-offs are flat planes, you would get cubic density around each atom which would raise the suspicion of even the most gullible reader. But a better solution would be to not contour the carved surface- leave a

Re: [ccp4bb] Solvent content of membrane protein crystals

2007-09-25 Thread Edward Berry
Das, Debanu wrote: Hi, There are at least 4 methods to try to estimate amount of detergent in a membrane protein crystal . In summary, someone wanting to estimate amount of detergent in their crystals and have sufficiently large and numerous crystals, could try out any of

Re: [ccp4bb] Solvent content of membrane protein crystals

2007-09-23 Thread Edward Berry
contacts. This was the rationale behind Michel's use of small amphiphiles to replace the bulky micelle, and antibody fragments to bridge the gap and provide hydrophilic areas for contact. Savvas Quoting Edward Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I would use a very general definition for solvent, including

Re: [ccp4bb] Solvent content of membrane protein crystals

2007-09-22 Thread Edward Berry
I would use a very general definition for solvent, including disordered detergent and lipids. As you know in many cases ordered detergents and lipids have been modeled in the coordinates, so they are part of the model not the solvent. In some cases I think waters should be included in the model

Re: [ccp4bb] CCP4 rotation convention

2007-08-13 Thread Edward Berry
Someone should design a device like a compass gimbal with an extra ring for teaching euler's angles, patent it (Gnu hardware license- world demand is probably 100 pieces), and persuade Hampton research or MitEGen to manufacture it. The device (picture at (http://sb20.lbl.gov/berry/Euler2.gif),

Re: [ccp4bb] Calculating vertical offset of helices

2007-08-06 Thread Edward Berry
Since Jie Liu is talking about coiled coils and heptad repeat, I think what may be needed is the displacement along the bundle axis. So an expression for the best bundle axis line, and then the projection of different C-a's onto that line to measure the difference between them? Ed Eleanor Dodson

Re: [ccp4bb] resolution vs ramachandran

2007-08-03 Thread Edward Berry
Procheck puts out such a correlation (% most favorable vs resolution) in the _04.ps file. For example look at page 7, first panel of the sample procheck output at: http://sb20.lbl.gov/SQR/procheck-2H88.pdf It appears that 83.5% would be well above average for a 3 A structure according to procheck

Re: [ccp4bb] Help with coordinate file

2007-07-24 Thread Edward Berry
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Mona, I am guessing you have the atom name,number and coordinates in your file. I did something like that and Openbabel will convert it to the pdb file you desire but as far as I know, you will have to assign a residue name to the atom yourself. I did this by

Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] removal of sulfate ion from the active site

2007-05-25 Thread Edward Berry
In those old chemical kinetics courses it was explicitly or implicitly clear that [I] refers to I(free), not I(total). The way assays are usually run, [E]K(I), so to a good approximation the amount of bound ligand is negligible. The way we set up crystallization, [E] is often mM while K(I) is uM

Re: [ccp4bb] Real Space Correlation coefficients

2007-02-20 Thread Edward Berry
Sorry, I didn't read the question. sfcheck wouldn't calculate CC between exp and MR map. Ed Edward Berry wrote: Also sfcheck calculates correlation coefficient for main chain and side chain of each residue, presented graphically in row 2 of the figure starting page 3 (example: http://sb20