Dear all, 

Glad to hear the awareness of sensitive ethical issues. From the observation of 
being in the crystallographic field for many years, the treatment and 
recognition for female minorities are probably much more profound than looking 
at the apparent numbers in tutoring the training courses or presenting in the 
conferences. The concerns of receiving adversity to their own careers by 
speaking out the unethical doings especially the involvement of the powerful 
people in high positions, how to get community support to weak individuals, how 
to worry about “easy to say than to do” to hope for the supposed integrity vs 
power to get whom to be protected in reality ... ... are not exaggerating, 
which may easily result in the silence... ...  So I am impressed by people’s 
brave discussions here for the positive voices. I didn’t attend many training 
courses to be able to comment much, however, without curing the roots of the 
cause for the respect, attention, encouragement, recognition and fair 
employment to the female minorities, the eventual low numbers in tutoring or 
presenting would not be surprising. This gives the challenging to the workshop 
organisers for the immediate numbers but it’s not their fault for the years of 
trends or the covered problems. Instead, the organisers do deserve the credits 
of the efforts to serve the community. 

With experiences of using various synchrotrons, software, successfully having 
solved about 50 crystal structures for unique proteins, supported several 
hundreds of users in a few years and supervised about 20 undergraduate students 
in the past... ... if needed someday in a suitable occasion I would be happy to 
talk up to 1-2 hours in practical ways how to carefully handle from protein to 
structure in every step in the crystallographic pipeline to maximise the 
results. 

Thank you very much for this community forum! 

Minmin

>> On 6 Feb 2020, at 07:26, Petr Kolenko <petr.kole...@fjfi.cvut.cz> wrote:
> 
> I apologize for the 1st April joke, but I could not resist. And it would not 
> be actual in three months. I guess that if the workshop were announced this 
> way, nobody would even care.
>  
> Dear colleagues,
> We are pleased to announce the 8th South American Macromolecular 
> Crystallography School:
> Macromolecular Crystallography School 2020
> "Structural Biology to enhance high impact research in health and disease”
>  
> To be held at the Institut Pasteur de Montevideo (Uruguay) - September 9-19, 
> 2020
> http://pasteur.uy/novedades/mx2020/
> The application deadline is July 9, 2020. For further inquiries : 
> mx2...@pasteur.edu.uy
>  
> Preliminary list of speakers:
> https://orcid.org/0000-0002-2509-6526
> https://orcid.org/0000-0002-0138-5227
> https://orcid.org/0000-0002-9495-0431
> https://orcid.org/0000-0003-1267-7185
> https://orcid.org/0000-0001-6483-3587
> ... and more to be confirmed.
>  
> Wake up guys! It is the GDPR time! At least here in Europe. Glad to having no 
> religion assigned to the speakers ...
> And a bit serious word. At our (technical) university, we previously had 
> total dominance of male students and the ratio was about 40:1 or even higher. 
> After twenty years, we have very balanced representation. Maybe it is only a 
> matter of time and it will be different. One can not change everything 
> immediately.
> Best regards,
> Petr
>  
> PS: I hope that nobody is offended.
>  
> From: CCP4 bulletin board <CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> On Behalf Of Robert Nicholls
> Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2020 2:27 AM
> To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Macromolecular Crystallography workshop in South 
> America 2020
>  
> Dear Susan,
> For one I'm already committed to 7 workshops this year so far, with more to 
> be confirmed. And for sure I'm by no means an anomoly - no doubt others 
> within the community would tell a similar tale. The commitment to workshops 
> for the CCP4 core team and various software deveopers is a burden. It's no 
> secret that there's room for expansion in the computational crystallography 
> community, and that CCP4 is enthusiastic to support such expansion - please 
> contact CCP4 if you are enthusiastic to actively work in this direction.
> Rob
>  
> 
> 
> On 6 Feb 2020, at 01:10, Susan Lea <susan....@path.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
>  
> Dear Tim
> I’m already teaching at 3 workshops this year - there are many others who 
> could do a better job (and who are also women)
> Susan
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On 5 Feb 2020, at 12:21, Roversi, Pietro (Dr.) <pr...@leicester.ac.uk> wrote:
> 
> 
> Dear all,
>  
> my twopenny worth - when Helen Walden and I put together the 2013 CCP4 
> Weekend list of speakers,
> we were delighted to end up with a not-so-gender-imbalanced list of speakers,
> but we did achieve that balance *intentionally*.
>  
> As we attempt to redress a de facto longstanding bias against women in the 
> workplace,
> everybody in charge of this kind of decision is expected to *intentionally* 
> look for excellent women scientists.
>  
> They will find them if they look - and the event will be better because of 
> participation of women as well as
> male scientists.
>  
> with best wishes,
>  
> Pietro
>  
>  
>  
> Pietro Roversi
> Lecturer (Teaching and Research) https://le.ac.uk/natural-sciences/
> LISCB Wellcome Trust ISSF Fellow
> https://le.ac.uk/liscb/research-groups/pietro-roversi
>  
> Leicester Institute of Structural and Chemical Biology
> Department of Molecular and Cell Biology, University of Leicester
> Henry Wellcome Building
> Lancaster Road, Leicester, LE1 7HB
> England, United Kingdom
>  
> Tel. +44 (0)116 2297237
>  
>  
> From: CCP4 bulletin board on behalf of Tim Gruene
> Sent: Wednesday, 05 February 2020 16:18
> To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Macromolecular Crystallography workshop in South 
> America 2020
>  
> Dear Susan, dear Silvia,
> 
> why don't both of you offer to teach as tutors at this CCP4 workshop?
> 
> I do not believe that this 'imbalance' has been done intentionally by any of 
> the people involved. 
> 
> Both of you should take a step forward, tutor in South America. In case your 
> offer is rejected, you may start to argue.
> 
> Best regards,
> Tim
> 
> On Wednesday, February 5, 2020 1:48:32 PM CET Susan Lea wrote:
> > ‘Role’ models are not what are needed - just a better representation of our
> > community. This is lazy scheduling and in a community where there have
> > always been influential women we should do better - CCP4 has let the whole
> > community down by allowing their name to be associated with this.
>  Perhaps
> > we could encourage the speakers to do as many of my colleagues have started
> > to do - ask who else is speaking at a meeting and refuse to participate if
> > the list does not reflect the community. 
> > Susan
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> > On 5 Feb 2020, at 07:38, Silvia Onesti <silvia.one...@elettra.eu> wrote:
> > 
> >  Maybe CCP4 should explicitely ask for gender balance before sponsoring a
> > workshop?
>  
> > Silvia
> > 
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Silvia Onesti - Head of Structural Biology
> > 
> > Elettra - Sincrotrone Trieste S.C.p.A.
> > AREA Science Park, 34149 Basovizza, Trieste ITALY
> > 
> > Email: silvia.one...@elettra.eu<mailto:silvia.one...@elettra.eu>
> > Tel. +39 040 3758451  Mob +39 366 6878001
> > 
> > http://www.elettra.trieste.it/People/SilviaOnesti
> > http://www.elettra.trieste.it/labs/structural-biology
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > 
> > On 5 Feb 2020, at 03:09, Alejandro Buschiazzo
> > <ale...@pasteur.edu.uy<mailto:ale...@pasteur.edu.uy>> wrote:
>  
> > Thank you for your comment, we cannot agree more.
> > 
> > We are aware of this, and still are in the process of inviting a few more
> > speakers.
>  We shall  thus bring more  women on board, and achieve a
> > balanced group! 
> > Cheers,
> > Alejandro (on behalf of the organizers)
> > 
> > 
> > El 4 feb. 2020, a la(s) 22:02, Edward Snell
> > <esn...@hwi.buffalo.edu<mailto:esn...@hwi.buffalo.edu>> escribió:
>  
> > 
> > ​It is great that this workshop is occurring but I couldn't help but notice
> > that there seem to be a lot of male speakers and tutors. I was wondering if
> > it might be appropriate to add some female role models. There are some
> > great candidates?
>  
> > 
> > 
> > ________________________________
> > From: CCP4 bulletin board
> > <CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>> on behalf of
> > Alejandro Buschiazzo <ale...@pasteur.edu.uy<mailto:ale...@pasteur.edu.uy>>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 4, 2020 7:30 PM
> > To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>
> > Subject: [ccp4bb] Macromolecular Crystallography workshop in South America
> > 2020
>  
> > Dear colleagues,
> > 
> > We are pleased to announce the 8th South American Macromolecular
> > Crystallography School:
>  
> > Macromolecular Crystallography School 2020
> > "Structural Biology to enhance high impact research in health and disease”
> > 
> > To be held at the Institut Pasteur de Montevideo (Uruguay) - September 9-19,
> > 2020
>  
> > http://pasteur.uy/novedades/mx2020/
> > 
> > The application deadline is July 9, 2020. For further inquiries :
> > mx2...@pasteur.edu.uy<mailto:mx2...@pasteur.edu.uy>
>  
> > 
> > Main Topics:
> > 
> > •       data processing;
> > 
> > •       phasing and structure determination;
> > 
> > •       model refinement and validation;
> > 
> > •       introduction to crystallography + cryo-electron microscopy
> > integration
>  
> > Confirmed speakers and tutors (so far... a few more will join the crew):
> > 
> > Alejandro Buschiazzo (Institut Pasteur de Montevideo, Uruguay)
> > Paul Emsley (Laboratory of Molecular Biology MRC, Cambridge, UK)
> > Rafael Junqueira Borges (Instituto de Biociências UNESP, Botucatu, Brazil)
> > Ronan Keegan (STFC Rutherford Appleton Lab - CCP4, Didcot, UK)
> > Eugene Krissinel (STFC Rutherford Appleton Lab - CCP4, Didcot, UK)
> > Joāo Muniz (Instituto de Fisica de São Carlos, Brazil)
> > Garib Murshudov (Laboratory of Molecular Biology MRC, Cambridge, UK)
> > Colin Palmer (STFC Rutherford Appleton Lab - CCP-EM, Didcot, UK)
> > James Parkhurst (Diamond Light Source, Didcot, UK)
> > Randy Read (University of Cambridge, UK)
> > Kyle Stevenson (STFC Rutherford Appleton Lab - CCP4, Didcot, UK)
> > Clemens Vonrhein (Global Phasing Ltd, Cambridge, UK)
> > 
> > Please find the application form and further contact information at
> > http://pasteur.uy/novedades/mx2020/
>  (this www site will be updated
> > regularly, so stay tuned!)
> > 
> > This Workshop is supported by the Collaborative Computational Project Nº4
> > (CCP4, UK) & Science and Technology Facilities Council (UK); the Centro de
> > Biologia Estructural del Mercosur (CeBEM); and the Programa Iberoamericano
> > de Ciencia y Tecnologia para el Desarrollo (CYTED) through de MICROBES
> > consortium.
>  
> > Organizers:
> > Alejandro Buschiazzo, PhD. Institut Pasteur de Montevideo, Uruguay
> > Kyle Stevenson, DPhil. CCP4, STFC Rutherford Appleton Laboratory, United
> > Kingdom
>  Richard Garratt, PhD. Instituto de Fisica de Sao Carlos, USP,
> > Brazil 
> > Applicants:
> > 25 students will be selected, prioritizing advanced PhD, postdocs and young
> > researchers. The Course will provide financial support covering
> > registration fees, and for the case of those students coming from abroad,
> > all local expenses (lodging, per diem and local transportation). Look in
> > the www site for details on application procedures.
>  
> > The application deadline is July 9, 2020.
> > 
> > Please address further inquiries to:
> > mx2...@pasteur.edu.uy<mailto:mx2...@pasteur.edu.uy>
>  
> > Looking forward to hosting you in Montevideo!
> > 
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