Dear All,
what about linking to any free cloud service for large attachments? Isn't CCP4 
7.1 already such a cloud?

Best,
marco

Marco Patrone – PhD
Biocrystallography Unit
Division of Immunology, Transplantation, and Infectious Disease (DITID)
DIBIT – San Raffaele Scientific Institute
Via Olgettina, 58
20132 Milano
Italy
phone: +39 0226434921
fax: +39 0226434153
http://www.hsr.it/research/organzation/massimo-degano

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From: CCP4 bulletin board <CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> on behalf of Nukri Sanishvili 
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Sent: Monday, July 19, 2021 4:34:07 PM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK <CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] pictures in emails

Hi Frank, CCP4bb-ers,
While the progress in the digital world in 2021 over the 90s is undeniable 
(which, unfortunately cannot be said about the analog world), we should keep in 
mind that some institutional accounts may filter out the "suspiciously" large 
emails.
I would not be surprised if some of these accounts end up blacklisting repeat 
offenders - CCP4bb in this case.
Best wishes,
Nukri

On Mon, Jul 19, 2021 at 8:12 AM Frank von Delft 
<frank.vonde...@cmd.ox.ac.uk<mailto:frank.vonde...@cmd.ox.ac.uk>> wrote:
Ahem.  Ed, Tim - the 90s called, they want want their disk space and email 
clients back.

As a co-perpertrator of vast volumes of detector data, and religious proponent 
of text formatting as inseparable part part the message, I disagree that in the 
year 2021, your suggestion still conforms to netiquette.

In case anybody was left with the impression that Tim and Ed's view was 
universal.

frank







On 19/07/2021 10:26, Tim Gruene wrote:

Hi Ed, dear ccp4bbs

I fully support your email!

Most email clients have a tick box to include a plain text version in
addition of the html-version in their preferences.

Reading plain text emails instead of the html-version (which is also an
available option for most email clients) is a very effective barrier
against spam. People should take this into account, considering the
global rise of ransomware attacks, with serious consequences to some
large institutions and companies.

It has always been good netiquette to at least include a text-version
of your email.

Cheers,
Tim

On Sun, 18 Jul 2021 11:17:26 -0400 Edward Berry 
<ber...@upstate.edu><mailto:ber...@upstate.edu>
wrote:



Two suggestions for people sending pictures of electron density to
the BB:

1. Reduce the size of the pictures-
The two pictures in yesterday's email appear nice and small in my
email client, but still illustrate what is being described. However
they are actually 4032x3024 and 2040x1458 pixels, making for rather
large emails. All that extra resolution is wasted unless the user
opens the image directly ("view image"), and in any case is
completely unnecessary for the point being made. I think about
600x600 pixels is plenty for almost anything you want to show in
electron density. This does not require manipulation in photoshop or
such- just reduce the size of the graphics window and take a
screenshot of that window.

2. send the picture as an attachment rather than inline. That way it
won't be included in all the replies. Or if the people replying could
find some way to exclude pictures or formt the reply as plain-text,
that would help.

(No, I'm not receiving these emails via 1200 baud modem- but I like
to save the messages for future reference. If the trend continues
toward high-resolution inline screenshots, that will take a
significant amount of disk space. And yes, I know there is an
archive.) eab

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