Dear Pavel,

I came across an example of calculating "electron_sums_around_atom" in cctbx
<https://github.com/cctbx/cctbx_project/blob/master/cctbx/examples/fft_map_electron_density_around_atom.py>.
If we don't zero the F000 or if we normalize the density of the real-space
map by the unit cell volume and the scattering factor of the unit cell
(F000), we can obtain the value of the density and sum the values of the
positions of the obtained grid points on the map. This approach will yield
the electron density sum across the volume, correct?

Additionally, there is a tool called PDB-EDA
<https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0236894>
that performs a similar calculation but not on selected volume.

Best regards,
S. Sriram


On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 4:03 AM Pavel Afonine <pafon...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Jon,
> not really the answer to your question but.. This may be very tricky to do
> because what you look at is not an electron density map but its Fourier
> image of finite resolution phased by crystal model (that has errors), plus
> experimental errors, and missing F000 (which is not measured as part of
> your diffraction experiment). So.. if such a software exists I'd be very
> cautious interpreting the results you get from it!
> Pavel
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 9:16 AM Hughes, Jonathan <
> jon.hug...@bot3.bio.uni-giessen.de> wrote:
>
>> hello everyone,
>> is there software that can use an electron density map to quantify the
>> number of electrons in a selected volume somewhere in a protein?
>> cheers
>> jon
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