Re: [ccp4bb] "B" in B-factor

2007-01-24 Thread Ethan Merritt
On Wednesday 24 January 2007 11:12, Daniel Anderson wrote: > An IUCr nomenclature committee once recommended eradication of the > "B-factor". Trueblood, et al. Acta Cryst (1996) A52, 770-781. > Whether or not the factor of 8 pi squared can be eradicated, > the publication is worth reading because i

Re: [ccp4bb] "B" in B-factor

2007-01-24 Thread Santarsiero, Bernard D.
are referring to? >> http://www.iucr.org/iucr-top/publ/50YearsOfXrayDiffraction/index.html >> >> Regards, >> Mitch >> >> -Original Message- >> From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf >> Of Diana Tomchick >> Sent:

Re: [ccp4bb] "B" in B-factor

2007-01-24 Thread Diana Tomchick
: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Diana Tomchick Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 11:09 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] "B" in B-factor An interesting discussion of the development of the Debye-Waller correction can be found in the IUCr p

Re: [ccp4bb] "B" in B-factor

2007-01-24 Thread Daniel Anderson
An IUCr nomenclature committee once recommended eradication of the "B-factor". Trueblood, et al. Acta Cryst (1996) A52, 770-781. Whether or not the factor of 8 pi squared can be eradicated, the publication is worth reading because it discusses what is modeled by Ueq (times 8 pi squared = B), and it

Re: [ccp4bb] "B" in B-factor

2007-01-24 Thread Diana Tomchick
An interesting discussion of the development of the Debye-Waller correction can be found in the IUCr publication, "Fifty Years of X- Ray Diffraction," edited by P.P. Ewald (unfortunately, it's no longer in print). It seems that Debye was the first scientist to tackle "a problem which appeare

Re: [ccp4bb] "B" in B-factor

2007-01-24 Thread Santarsiero, Bernard D.
It looks like the earliest reference to the Debye-Waller factor is from Debye's paper: Uber den Einfluss der Warmebewegung uf die Interferenzerscheinungen beiu Rontgenstrahlen, Verhandl. deut. phyik. Ges., 15, 678-689 (1913), and the succeeding paper Verhandl. deut. phyik, Ges., 15, 738-752 (1913

Re: [ccp4bb] "B" in B-factor

2007-01-24 Thread David J. Schuller
I see that the [ccp4bb] has been restored to the mail Subject: line. Thank you to the responsible party. -- === With the single exception of Cornell, there is not a college in the United States where truth has ever been a welcome

Re: [ccp4bb] "B" in B-factor

2007-01-24 Thread Virgile ADAM
Thanks Gerard for all those explanations, I'm particularly convinced by the last one. Poor of me, who believed that the "B" stood for Boltzman or something like that, I now have the correct answer! Cheers Virgile Gerard DVD Kleywegt a écrit : May be too trivial, I was just wondering what "

Re: [ccp4bb] "B" in B-factor

2007-01-24 Thread Becker, Joseph W
ubject: Re: [ccp4bb] "B" in B-factor > May be too trivial, I was just wondering > what "B" stands for in the term "B-factor". i don't really know, but i do have some wild theories, none of which are necessarily based in fact: - the B-factor is also called

Re: [ccp4bb] "B" in B-factor

2007-01-24 Thread Kevin Cowtan
Tricky... My guess would be that it comes from the commonplace use of symbols in one common definition of a Gaussian: y = a exp( - b x^2 ) (although that doesn't explain the capitalisation). Rajesh Kumar Singh wrote: May be too trivial, I was just wondering what "B" stands for in the term "B

Re: [ccp4bb] "B" in B-factor

2007-01-24 Thread Gerard DVD Kleywegt
May be too trivial, I was just wondering what "B" stands for in the term "B-factor". i don't really know, but i do have some wild theories, none of which are necessarily based in fact: - the B-factor is also called the Debye-Waller factor. now, someone assumed that peter debye was french (in

Re: [ccp4bb] "B" in B-factor

2007-01-24 Thread Roberto Steiner
Hi Rajesh, I also wondered about that. Not having been able to find a good explanation in the literature I thought of it as reducing factor of the *B*ragg peaks. M??? Then I stopped thinking about it (I now try to call them ADPs) Roberto On 24 Jan 2007, at 12:42, Rajesh Kumar Singh wrote:

Re: [ccp4bb] "B" in B-factor

2007-01-24 Thread Rajesh Kumar Singh
yeah, atomic displacement parameter is abbreviated as ADP. I wanted to know if there is some specific term for "B" in B factor as "R" refers to Reliability in R-factor. Rajesh On Wednesday 24 January 2007 14:52, evrard wrote: > Rajesh Kumar Singh wrote: > > May be too trivial, I was just wonderin

Re: [ccp4bb] "B" in B-factor

2007-01-24 Thread evrard
Rajesh Kumar Singh wrote: May be too trivial, I was just wondering what "B" stands for in the term "B-factor". Thanks Rajesh Hi Rajesh, why, it's obvious, B stands for 'atomic displacement parameter' Guillaume -- ** Guillaume Evrard European Molecular Biology La

[ccp4bb] "B" in B-factor

2007-01-24 Thread Rajesh Kumar Singh
May be too trivial, I was just wondering what "B" stands for in the term "B-factor". Thanks Rajesh -- Rajesh Kumar Singh Institut fur Biochemie Universitat Greifswald Felix-Hausdorff-Str. 4 D-17489 Greifswald Germany E.Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: +49-3834- 86 4392