Surely in this day and age, one would just run AF2? - it’s clearly the best 
homology modelling program ever, finding homologies that other programs can’t 
reach.  I would - we are - using it to supply another “best guess” for 
difficult-to-build structures. One could even use it as an input for MR and 
hope.

Adrian

On 6 Oct 2022, at 17:24, Schreuder, Herman /DE 
<herman.schreu...@sanofi.com<mailto:herman.schreu...@sanofi.com>> wrote:

Dear Shawn,

I am not aware of an automated way to merge all fragments into a single 
consistent peptide chain. What I would do is to look at the map and the built 
fragments in coot and switch the symmetry on with a large radius, e.g. 20-30A 
and see if you can find a set of fragments (including symmetry mates) that 
could form a complete and consistent protein molecule.

If there is a suitable MR model available, I would try to match the fragments 
to the model (find equivalent amino acids). You could use the matching residues 
to superimpose the MR model e.g. onto the largest fragment available. The next 
step would be to rebuild the MR model using the electron density map and the 
built fragments as a guide.

If there is no suitable MR model, I would probably built the whole protein, 
starting from the largest fragment, using the built residues as a guide. For 
this you can use the “add residue” option and put the residue created at the 
position of the equivalent residue of a fragment. Every 3-5 residues, you 
should do a real space refinement. The pdb standard accepts negative residue 
numbers, so you should be able to build in N-terminal direction as well.  
Afterwards you will have to renumber the protein to get the correct numbering.

The alternative would be to select the correct symmetry mate for each fragment, 
write them out, renumber them and merge them into a single pdb file. However, 
in my experience, this is much more hassle than the build them “from scratch” 
as I mentioned.

Good luck,
Herman



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Im Auftrag von Shawn Rumrill
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An: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>
Betreff: [ccp4bb] Fragmented Chains after Automated Rebuilding

Hello All,

I am trying to solve a protein/nucleic acid (na) structure. The density for na 
is poor and MR is less straightforward, so I used ModelCraft for automated 
phasing, rebuilding and improving the electron density. It has built a partial 
model for the complex, which looks somewhat reasonable, however, the protein 
and na chains are fragmented, which throws off numbering, etc. I'm sure this is 
expected, but I typically don't do automated rebuilding (necessary in this 
case).

Is there any way to easily connect and renumber the chains and residues 
(perhaps using a reference PDB structure) to try and build something more 
complete (in terms of chains and residues)?

I have not worked with a protein/na complex so certainly na modeling is new to 
me. Any input is greatly appreciated!

Thanks for your expertise,

Shawn

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