Re: [ccp4bb] Backup of whole synchrotrons

2019-04-01 Thread Aaron Finke
Not to toot our own horn too much, but CHESS has been ahead of the curve on this for at least 30 years. As an academic facility, we simply take our limitless supply of graduate students, wipe their memory, upload what we need, and lock them in dimly-lit facilities. No freezing in liquid nitrogen

Re: [ccp4bb] Backup of whole synchrotrons

2019-04-01 Thread Fred Vellieux
From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Peter Keller Sent: Monday, April 01, 2019 12:04 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Backup of whole synchrotrons Hi Robbie, On 01/04/2019 07:23, Robbie Joosten wrote: I don't think making this GDOR complient is that

Re: [ccp4bb] Backup of whole synchrotrons

2019-04-01 Thread Robbie Joosten
y. Cheers, Robbie > -Original Message- > From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of > Peter Keller > Sent: Monday, April 01, 2019 12:04 > To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Backup of whole synchrotrons > > Hi Robbie, > >

Re: [ccp4bb] Backup of whole synchrotrons

2019-04-01 Thread Peter Keller
Hi Robbie, On 01/04/2019 07:23, Robbie Joosten wrote: I don't think making this GDOR complient is that hard. It's all pretty well defined what you store (everything), where you store it, and why. There are some philosophical problems with allowing users to have their data deleted. Assuming the

Re: [ccp4bb] Backup of whole synchrotrons

2019-03-31 Thread Robbie Joosten
I don't think making this GDOR complient is that hard. It's all pretty well defined what you store (everything), where you store it, and why. There are some philosophical problems with allowing users to have their data deleted. Assuming the copy is good enough to reproducing the experiment. Dele

Re: [ccp4bb] Backup of whole synchrotrons

2019-03-31 Thread graeme.win...@diamond.ac.uk
While this may sound absurd, the principle of incremental backups can help out a great deal here. Like Appleā€™s Time Machine, all we need to do is store a copy of the things which have changed rather than the entire facility, which reduces the burden by at least a few orders of magnitude. Such ef

[ccp4bb] Backup of whole synchrotrons

2019-03-31 Thread Petr Kolenko
Dear colleagues, We all are very happy about the storage of raw crystallographic datasets. But, is it really enough? No! Can we do better? Yes, of course! The problem is that the crystal after the measurement is usually burned. It does not make sense to store them any more. But, in order to maxim