Dear Herman,

I am not sure what you really want. Maybe this can help you.

You can get the following numbers out of MAIN 
1. comparing a pair of selections. It makes sense only if they are equivalent.

> rms b-val  select my_selection_1 end select my_selection_2 end

2. Show command does statistics for a given selection. The “bond" keyword 
considers fluctuations between bonding atoms, whereas without it the selection 
is considered as one group. 

> show b-val bond select my_selection end

best regards,
dusan


> On Mar 27, 2015, at 1:00 AM, CCP4BB automatic digest system 
> <lists...@jiscmail.ac.uk> wrote:
> 
> Date:    Thu, 26 Mar 2015 11:32:43 +0000
> From:    herman.schreu...@sanofi.com <mailto:herman.schreu...@sanofi.com>
> Subject: r.m.s.d. ΔB
> 
> Dear Bulletin Board,
> 
> A referee wants for the “Table 1” in the supplementary information the 
> following data:
> 
> The r.m.s.d. ΔB (bonded atoms) (Å2)
> All protein atoms
> Main chain – Main chain
> Side chain – Side chain
> Main chain – Side chain
> 
> r.m.s.d. ΔB (Non-bonded contacts) (Å2)
> All protein atoms
> 
> Using google I found at that some of these numbers could be calculated with 
> Moleman, although I am not sure to what extend this program is still 
> maintained.
> Older versions of Refmac would calculate r.m.s.d. ΔB’s for main chain and 
> side chain bonds, which I guess would be the “Main chain – Main chain” and 
> “Side chain – Side chain” values requested. However, what would should I 
> think of the “Main chain – Side chain” values; differences between Calpha and 
> Cbeta atoms?
> 
> What would be the use of these numbers? The standard CCP4 validation 
> programs, or any validation program I know, do not calculate these numbers, 
> so they do not seem to be extremely important. If somebody could point me to 
> a program which could calculate these number without too much effort, I would 
> be happy to do it.  Otherwise, I would still be willing to go the extra mile 
> if someone could convince me that it is useful to have these numbers.
> 
> Thank you for your help!
> Herman
> 

Dr. Dusan Turk, Prof.
Head of Structural Biology Group http://bio.ijs.si/sbl/ 
<http://bio.ijs.si/sbl/> 
Head of Centre for Protein  and Structure Production
Centre of excellence for Integrated Approaches in Chemistry and Biology of 
Proteins, Scientific Director
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