I am currently trying to solve two datasets of two different protein-protein 
complexes. One of the proteins is common to both complexes and there is a 
deposited structure in the PDB (100% identical). The other proteins currently 
have not been solved and share ~50% identity between them. Both complexes 
crystallize in different space groups. All three proteins are ~12kDa. Both 
datasets diffract to ~3-3.5A.

A) C2221 109.6 110.1 335.2 90 90 90 with around 9 copies of the complex.
B) I4122 131.6 131.6 257.1 90 90 90 with 5 copies of the complex.

I am slightly suspicious of Dataset A due to similar a and b lengths. Merging 
in P4, results in higher Rmerges. 

However in each case, searching with the common protein, results in Phaser 
failing to find a single copy of the protein, despite TFZ scores of 8-12, due 
to rejection during packing;

Dataset A
   Packing Table
   -------------
   Solutions accepted if total number of clashes <= 5% of trace atoms
      i.e. total number of clashes <= 5
   AND if number of clashes <= 5% of trace atoms for each ensemble
      i.e. ensemble1: number of clashes <= 5
   #    #  #Clash Packs SpaceGroup  Annotation
   1         198   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.9 TFZ=11.2
   2         154   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.3 TFZ=10.8
   3         229   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.6 TFZ=11.5
   4         161   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.5 TFZ=10.0
   5         118   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.4 TFZ=9.8
   6         166   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.9 TFZ=8.1
   7         199   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.6 TFZ=10.0
   8         165   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.5 TFZ=10.0
   9         167   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.4 TFZ=10.1
   10        168   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.5 TFZ=8.8
   11        186   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.4 TFZ=9.0
   12        93    NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.5 TFZ=8.3
   13        155   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=3.1 TFZ=8.8
   14        149   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.9 TFZ=8.1
   15        158   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.6 TFZ=9.7
   16        151   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.6 TFZ=10.5
   17        147   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=3.1 TFZ=8.6
   18        145   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.8
   19        130   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.4 TFZ=10.8
   20        166   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.9 TFZ=8.4
   21        215   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.4 TFZ=10.0
   22        147   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.6 TFZ=10.1
   23        189   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.6 TFZ=9.6
   24        164   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.5 TFZ=9.2
   25        166   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.6 TFZ=9.3
   26        234   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.3
   27        170   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.4 TFZ=9.3
   28        126   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.6 TFZ=8.1
   29        189   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.5 TFZ=9.4
   30        171   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.3 TFZ=9.6
   31        211   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.5 TFZ=8.6
   32        203   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.5 TFZ=10.2
   33        162   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.4 TFZ=9.7
   34        116   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.6 TFZ=8.5
   35        168   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.5 TFZ=8.1
   36        159   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.4 TFZ=9.6
   37        91    NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.5 TFZ=8.6
   38        114   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.5 TFZ=8.6
   39        212   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.3
   40        162   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.4 TFZ=10.1
   41        182   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.9 TFZ=8.4
   42        112   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.5 TFZ=8.3
   43        131   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.4 TFZ=9.3
   44        166   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.3 TFZ=9.4
   45        135   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.4 TFZ=9.4
   46        156   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.5 TFZ=8.5
   47        189   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.5 TFZ=8.6
   48        133   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.5 TFZ=8.6
   49        200   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.5 TFZ=9.1
   50        146   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.6 TFZ=9.2
   51        117   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.5
   52        128   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.5 TFZ=8.2
   53        144   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.4 TFZ=9.0
   54        148   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.5 TFZ=8.1
   55        119   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.5
   56        131   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.5
   57        131   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.5 TFZ=8.4
   58        173   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.6 TFZ=8.9
   59        114   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.6 TFZ=8.1
   60        150   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.6
   61        150   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.4
   62        138   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.3 TFZ=8.6
   63        123   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.5 TFZ=8.3
   64        122   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.5 TFZ=8.2
   65        116   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.6 TFZ=8.4
   66        118   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.0
   67        131   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.3
   68        96    NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.4
   69        98    NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.0
   70        198   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.5 TFZ=8.6
   71        137   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.9
   72        110   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.5 TFZ=8.2
   73        70    NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.4
   74        128   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.3
   75        87    NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.4
   76        143   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.5 TFZ=8.2
   77        170   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.8
   78        170   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.3 TFZ=8.5
   79        74    NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.7 TFZ=8.2
   80        150   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.5 TFZ=8.2
   81        71    NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.5 TFZ=8.2
   82        108   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.5 TFZ=8.1
   83        206   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.4
   84        114   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.1
   85        182   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.2
   86        143   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.6 TFZ=8.0
   87        92    NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.3 TFZ=8.0
   88        174   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.5
   89        185   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.3 TFZ=8.2
   90        111   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.6 TFZ=8.2
   91        182   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.5 TFZ=8.3
   92        188   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.3 TFZ=8.0
   93        158   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.3 TFZ=8.0
   94        164   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.6
   95        155   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.0
   96        130   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.3 TFZ=8.2
   97        148   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.4 TFZ=9.0
   98        190   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.0
   99        147   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.2
   100       38    NO   C 2 2 21    RFZ=2.7 TFZ=8.5
   101       120   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.2
   102       133   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.3 TFZ=8.4
   103       141   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.7
   104       166   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.3 TFZ=8.3
   105       88    NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.1
   106       55    NO   C 2 2 21    RFZ=2.4 TFZ=9.9
   107       111   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.5 TFZ=8.1
   108       61    NO   C 2 2 21    RFZ=2.4 TFZ=9.5
   109       159   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.4
   110       189   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.2
   111       37    NO   C 2 2 21    RFZ=2.4 TFZ=9.3
   112       205   NO   C 2 2 2     RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.6
   113       37    NO   C 2 2 21    RFZ=2.4 TFZ=9.0
   114       37    NO   C 2 2 21    RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.9
   115       35    NO   C 2 2 21    RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.6
   116       36    NO   C 2 2 21    RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.6
   117       59    NO   C 2 2 21    RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.5
   118       57    NO   C 2 2 21    RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.4
   119       55    NO   C 2 2 21    RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.5
   120       59    NO   C 2 2 21    RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.4
   121       35    NO   C 2 2 21    RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.2
   122       37    NO   C 2 2 21    RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.1
   123       37    NO   C 2 2 21    RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.4
   124       37    NO   C 2 2 21    RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.1
   125       56    NO   C 2 2 21    RFZ=2.5 TFZ=8.0
   126       59    NO   C 2 2 21    RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.2
   127       37    NO   C 2 2 21    RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.0
   128       51    NO   C 2 2 21    RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.2
   129       69    NO   C 2 2 21    RFZ=2.3 TFZ=8.0

   0 accepted of 129 solutions



Dataset B
Packing Table
   -------------
   Solutions accepted if total number of clashes <= 5% of trace atoms
      i.e. total number of clashes <= 5
   AND if number of clashes <= 5% of trace atoms for each ensemble
      i.e. ensemble1: number of clashes <= 5
   #    #  #Clash Packs SpaceGroup  Annotation
   1         136   NO   I 41 2 2    RFZ=2.6 TFZ=12.7
   2         136   NO   I 41 2 2    RFZ=2.6 TFZ=12.2
   3         179   NO   I 41 2 2    RFZ=2.6 TFZ=11.2
   4         184   NO   I 41 2 2    RFZ=2.6 TFZ=10.6
   5         133   NO   I 41 2 2    RFZ=2.8 TFZ=9.2
   6         109   NO   I 41 2 2    RFZ=2.8 TFZ=10.9
   7         111   NO   I 41 2 2    RFZ=2.8 TFZ=10.7
   8         153   NO   I 41 2 2    RFZ=2.8 TFZ=8.0
   9        >6     NO   I 41 2 2    RFZ=2.8 TFZ=7.8
   10        137   NO   I 41 2 2    RFZ=2.8 TFZ=9.0
   11        169   NO   I 41 2 2    RFZ=2.8 TFZ=9.8
   12        189   NO   I 41 2 2    RFZ=2.6 TFZ=9.6
   13        184   NO   I 41 2 2    RFZ=2.8 TFZ=9.7
   14        208   NO   I 41 2 2    RFZ=2.5 TFZ=9.0
   15        117   NO   I 41 2 2    RFZ=2.6 TFZ=8.8
   16        138   NO   I 41 2 2    RFZ=2.6 TFZ=8.5
   17        194   NO   I 41 2 2    RFZ=3.2 TFZ=8.1
   18        206   NO   I 41 2 2    RFZ=2.5 TFZ=8.9
   19        190   NO   I 41 2 2    RFZ=2.7 TFZ=8.1
   20       >6     NO   I 41 2 2    RFZ=2.8 TFZ=7.4
   21        66    NO   I 41 2 2    RFZ=2.8 TFZ=8.4
   22       >6     NO   I 41 2 2    RFZ=3.2 TFZ=7.7
   23        185   NO   I 41 2 2    RFZ=2.6 TFZ=9.0
   24       >6     NO   I 41 2 2    RFZ=3.2 TFZ=7.6
   25        97    NO   I 41 2 2    RFZ=2.6 TFZ=8.2
   26        131   NO   I 41 2 2    RFZ=2.8 TFZ=9.0
   27        180   NO   I 41 2 2    RFZ=2.7 TFZ=8.7
   28        81    NO   I 41 2 2    RFZ=2.6 TFZ=8.2
   29        194   NO   I 41 2 2    RFZ=2.5 TFZ=8.5
   30        135   NO   I 41 2 2    RFZ=2.8 TFZ=9.0
   31        113   NO   I 41 2 2    RFZ=2.6 TFZ=8.1
   32        188   NO   I 41 2 2    RFZ=2.5 TFZ=8.7
   33        174   NO   I 41 2 2    RFZ=2.7 TFZ=8.5
   34        168   NO   I 41 2 2    RFZ=2.6 TFZ=8.4
   35        141   NO   I 41 2 2    RFZ=2.8 TFZ=8.0
   36        188   NO   I 41 2 2    RFZ=2.7 TFZ=8.6
   37        139   NO   I 41 2 2    RFZ=2.6 TFZ=8.3
   38        112   NO   I 41 2 2    RFZ=2.7 TFZ=8.3
   39        183   NO   I 41 2 2    RFZ=2.8 TFZ=8.6
   40        42    NO   I 41 2 2    RFZ=2.6 TFZ=8.3
   41        149   NO   I 41 2 2    RFZ=2.7 TFZ=8.4
   42        188   NO   I 41 2 2    RFZ=2.7 TFZ=8.5
   43        128   NO   I 41 2 2    RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.1
   44        142   NO   I 41 2 2    RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.3
   45        151   NO   I 41 2 2    RFZ=2.7 TFZ=8.2
   46        171   NO   I 41 2 2    RFZ=2.6 TFZ=8.3
   47        154   NO   I 41 2 2    RFZ=2.5 TFZ=8.2
   48        180   NO   I 41 2 2    RFZ=2.8 TFZ=8.6
   49        139   NO   I 41 2 2    RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.1
   50        197   NO   I 41 2 2    RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.1
   51        181   NO   I 41 2 2    RFZ=2.8 TFZ=8.0
   52        106   NO   I 41 2 2    RFZ=2.8 TFZ=8.2
   53        197   NO   I 41 2 2    RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.3
   54        98    NO   I 41 2 2    RFZ=2.8 TFZ=8.1
   55        125   NO   I 41 2 2    RFZ=2.5 TFZ=8.1
   56        199   NO   I 41 2 2    RFZ=2.5 TFZ=8.1

   0 accepted of 56 solutions

This protein is a single IgV domain. I have removed all loops, leaving behind 
just the beta-strands. Although this appears to place a single copies, searches 
for further copies fails despite an increase in the TFZ score;

WARNINGS
--------

$TEXT:Warning: $$ Baubles Markup $$
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Solutions with Z-scores greater than 12.0 (the threshold indicating a definite
solution) were rejected for failing packing test
#3 TFZ=12.0 PAK=33
#9 TFZ=12.7 PAK=61
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
$$

$TEXT:Warning: $$ Baubles Markup $$
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Solutions with Z-scores greater than 12.2 (the threshold indicating a definite
solution) were rejected for failing packing test
#1 TFZ=16.3 PAK=67
#2 TFZ=16.1 PAK=38
#3 TFZ=14.8 PAK=37
#4 TFZ=13.9 PAK=64
#5 TFZ=12.3 PAK=85
#6 TFZ=12.4 PAK=67
#7 TFZ=12.6 PAK=65
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
$$


So three things
1) Is this working?
2) Do I need to fragment the protein differently? As in remove some strands 
instead of loops?
or
3) Something else? 

I am currently shooting crystals looking for slightly higher datasets, so If 
you have any suggestions, please let me know.

Thanks and enjoy the weekend.

Dan

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