Re: [ccp4bb] Crystal gel band

2010-11-02 Thread Jim Pflugrath
putative protein crystals? _ From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xaravich ivan Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 9:51 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] Crystal gel band Hi everyone, I have grown some crystals after micro-seeding starting from

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystal gel band

2010-11-02 Thread Jürgen Bosch
run on the gel lanes with about the same amount of crystalline volume as your putative protein crystals? From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xaravich ivan Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 9:51 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] Crystal gel band

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystal gel band

2010-11-02 Thread Prince, D Bryan
to get enough S/N for a good experiment? Good luck! From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Jim Pflugrath Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 10:19 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Crystal gel band It reads like you need to run a lane or two

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystal gel band

2010-11-02 Thread Kenneth Verstraete
Hi Ivan, there are several tests (e.g. Izit dye, crush test) you can do discern protein from salt crystals but what was always very informative to me (and certainly in the case of complexes) is a silver-stained SDS-PAGE gel of the crystals using the following protocol: - select a drop

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystal gel band

2010-11-02 Thread xaravich ivan
Thanks all of you for your answers. As you guessed I was doing coomassie staining from single crystal (0.10-0.13-0.05).Fortunately I had lots of not so great looking single crystals from similar drops and I took about 10-12 of them.Then I could see a faint band where I was expecting! Thanks

[ccp4bb] Crystal gel band

2010-11-01 Thread xaravich ivan
Hi everyone, I have grown some crystals after micro-seeding starting from thin-small needles from needle-clusters. These crystals are larger in size than the needles but are comparable to the shape and don't look like salt crystals. But I cannot see the bands( its a complex) in the SDS-PAGE.I do

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystal gel band

2010-11-01 Thread shivendra singh
Hi ivan, The detection senstivity of proteins depends on staining technique, You have not mentioned about staining, whether silver or Coomassie. The silver staining is more sensitive than coomassie, typically you can see 10-50 ng of a protein in silver staining. It does vary, however, with the

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystal gel band

2010-11-01 Thread Dima Klenchin
I have grown some crystals after micro-seeding starting from thin-small needles from needle-clusters. These crystals are larger in size than the needles but are comparable to the shape and don't look like salt crystals. But I cannot see the bands( its a complex) in the SDS-PAGE.I do not have a