Re: [ccp4bb] Detergent/lipid crystal diffraction pattern?

2011-03-22 Thread Maia Cherney
Pius, Are you sure that you determined the correct cell. Which program did you use? Usually there are much less spots on an image when a crystal has so small unit size dimensions. To me the first crystal looks like protein. Send it to a synchrotron and process the data in XDS. They can process

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Detergent/lipid crystal diffraction pattern?

2011-03-22 Thread Stefan Gerhardt
Hi Pius DS_1.png -> protein diffraction ! DSA6E.png -> surface ice formation and protein crystal which did not survive the freezing !! DSA2F.png -> protein crystal which does not diffract, but cryo condition is right ! Psp4f.png -> internal ice formation plus some surface ice also protein crysta

Re: [ccp4bb] Detergent/lipid crystal diffraction pattern?

2011-03-21 Thread Maia Cherney
Hi PS What is the unit cell dimensions in the first crystal? It looks like protein to me. Maia On 21/03/2011 2:03 PM, Pius Padayatti wrote: Hi all, We recently observed some diffraction from membrane protein crystallization drops diffraction that look like non-proteinaceous (please see at

Re: [ccp4bb] Detergent/lipid crystal diffraction pattern?

2011-03-21 Thread Bjørn Panyella Pedersen
Working with the H+-ATPase AHA2 (C12E8/DDM/Cymal-5 detergent mixed micelle) we always saw a ring at ~40Å which we attributed to the micelle, but we have no experimental evidence that it was indeed caused by detergents. Heres a animated gif of this phenomenon: http://www.bioxray.au.dk/~bjopp/pic

[ccp4bb] Detergent/lipid crystal diffraction pattern?

2011-03-19 Thread
Hi All, I am wondering if the detergent or lipid crystal can have diffraction at low resolution. If they can, what does the diffraction pattern looks like? Are there any literatures describing these? Many thanks!