Re: [ccp4bb] Finding NCS operator from one heavy atom site?

2008-05-23 Thread Eleanor Dodson
I guess you mean you have one ha per monomer? To use CCP4 tools - you can use mapmask to mask out a sphere of density around your heavy atom. Give the atom a "radius" of 10A of something big to get a decent lump, and make sure it looks sensible.. (Use your best phases here of course) Then use

Re: [ccp4bb] Finding NCS operator from one heavy atom site? (long)

2008-05-22 Thread Phil Jeffrey
This almost does what you want, but not quite. To quote from the NCS6D manual: "NCS6D uses a set of BONES or PDB atoms as input and tries to find a set of rotations and translations which maximise the correlation coefficient between the density at the (BONES) atoms and those at the same atoms

Re: [ccp4bb] Finding NCS operator from one heavy atom site?

2008-05-22 Thread Jan Abendroth
Hi Partha, ncs6d did really great things to me a while ago. Similar case as yours, only one Met site in each of the 4 monomers, pretty horrible maps. I was amazed how ncs6d could sort its way through the maps and find the ncs operators. As a simple approach I just took a spherical map around the me

Re: [ccp4bb] Finding NCS operator from one heavy atom site?

2008-05-22 Thread Clemens Vonrhein
Hi, On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 11:22:19AM -0700, Juergen Bosch wrote: > You can also scratch your head and look at the selfrotation function > of your dataset. Some of that scratching can be done using GETAX for you - it's in CCP4 (for years), but hasn't got a CCP4i interface (yet: next release will

Re: [ccp4bb] Finding NCS operator from one heavy atom site?

2008-05-22 Thread Juergen Bosch
Hi Partha, you could add "artificial" sites close to the Se sites in regions of density which look similar to you, you will need at least three sites then let resolve figure out the NCS operators. You can also scratch your head and look at the selfrotation function of your dataset. You might

[ccp4bb] Finding NCS operator from one heavy atom site?

2008-05-22 Thread Partha Chakrabarti
Hi, Apologies for a non CCP4 question in strict sense. I am trying to work out the NCS operators for a three wavelength Se-MAD data which has only one site. The map is hardly interpretable. I came across the USF Rave package and what I am aiming is creak a mask around the heavy atom site (found b