Re: [ccp4bb] Non-specific disulfides in a secreted protein

2018-12-21 Thread Jonathan Elegheert
Hi Tomas, In addition to all other suggestions, and as Zhijie suggests, a good alternative strategy to plasmid dilution may be inducible expression using the HEK293S GnTI– TetR cell line (PMID: 12370423) and a compatible expression vector such as pACMV-TetO (PMID: 22322218) or pHR-CMV-TetO2

Re: [ccp4bb] Non-specific disulfides in a secreted protein

2018-12-15 Thread Tomas Malinauskas
Dear Zhijie et al, thanks a lot for your thoughtful suggestions. a) we do get a fraction with a "proper" monomer but it would be nice to minimise losses because of non-specific disulfides; b) yes, it has 1 Asn-linked glycan which gets nicely trimmed upon treatment with Endo F1; d) yes, we do get

Re: [ccp4bb] Non-specific disulfides in a secreted protein

2018-12-15 Thread Luca Jovine
Dear Tomas, Along Radu’s comments, here’s another paper well worth looking into: Halff EF, Versteeg M, Brondijk TH, Huizinga EG When less becomes more: optimization of protein expression in HEK293-EBNA1 cells using plasmid titration - a case study for NLRs

Re: [ccp4bb] Non-specific disulfides in a secreted protein

2018-12-14 Thread Zhijie Li
Yes, we have also seen some indication that overdriving the expression can cause problems. In our cases this may range from bad aggregations or loss of expression. Since we use induced stable cells we simply reduced the doxycyline levels. Zhijie > On Dec 14, 2018, at 1:13 PM,

Re: [ccp4bb] Non-specific disulfides in a secreted protein

2018-12-14 Thread Zhijie Li
Hi Tomas, Some thoughts: a) I guess the thermodynamic drive for all part of this small ectodomain to fold into a single lowest energy conformation is not very strong. The cells can’t know that the little artificial domain is supposed to be a monomer when the oligomers are also sufficiently

Re: [ccp4bb] Non-specific disulfides in a secreted protein

2018-12-14 Thread Tomas Malinauskas
Thanks! We will try a DNA dilution trick. Yes, a fraction (~30-70%) is a monomer we want. On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 6:12 PM wrote: > > Hi Tomas, > > I have seen something similar in the past, see PMID: 26998761. The problem > could be alleviated by tuning down expression levels, through plasmid >

Re: [ccp4bb] Non-specific disulfides in a secreted protein

2018-12-14 Thread radu
Hi Tomas, I have seen something similar in the past, see PMID: 26998761. The problem could be alleviated by tuning down expression levels, through plasmid dilution. I guess that cellular QC mechanisms are overwhelmed if you push too hard for overexpression. I'd test a range of 1:10 to 1:1000, or

[ccp4bb] Non-specific disulfides in a secreted protein

2018-12-14 Thread Tomas Malinauskas
Dear All, we are purifying a small secreted protein from conditioned media and have a rather unusual problem. It is a small ectodomain (~11 kDa, pI ~6, His-tagged) of the type 1 transmembrane receptor, crystal structures are known (of the protein that was produced in E.coli and refolded; we are