Re: [ccp4bb] PEG in the pdb? zero occ

2010-08-14 Thread Eleanor Dodson
I agree that zero occupancy is a bit ugly, but useful when not sure whether you will ever see that LYS.. But I dont think it wlll displace bulk solvent - at least not in REFMAC where an atom with occ=0.0 will not contribute to the atom map. And I expect this is true for all other structure

Re: [ccp4bb] PEG in the pdb? zero occ

2010-08-14 Thread Edwin Pozharski
Perhaps I was confused by the refinement exclude keyword which explicitly says that atoms excluded from refinement will contribute to the mask calculation.  Thanks for the correction. I would still object to the zero-occupancy atoms on semantic grounds.  Partial occupancy means that an atom

[ccp4bb] PEG in the pdb?

2010-08-12 Thread Klaus Sengstack
Hi everybody, I just solved the structures of an enzyme an some variants. In the active site cavity of each variant I found one or two fragments of PEG1000 bound. I used PEG1000 in the crystallization condition. Among the enzyme variants the number of non-hydrogen atoms of these PEG fragments

Re: [ccp4bb] PEG in the pdb?

2010-08-12 Thread MARTYN SYMMONS
: [ccp4bb] PEG in the pdb? To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Date: Thursday, 12 August, 2010, 9:16 Hi everybody, I just solved the structures of an enzyme an some variants. In the active site cavity of each variant I found one or two fragments of PEG1000 bound. I used PEG1000 in the crystallization

Re: [ccp4bb] PEG in the pdb?

2010-08-12 Thread Ed Pozharski
PEG solutions contain fragments of all sizes - it is the average size (however defined by the manufacturer) that is 1000. So technically it is incorrect to claim that you have PEG1000 molecules bound to your protein, it is most likely much shorter fragments that can penetrate the channels in

Re: [ccp4bb] PEG in the pdb?

2010-08-12 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 08:57 +, MARTYN SYMMONS wrote: Zero occupancy is generally a deprecated way of dealing with missing density as it is confusing for less experienced user of the coordinates. I think zero occupancy can be useful during refinement as the atoms help fill space (or for

Re: [ccp4bb] PEG in the pdb?

2010-08-12 Thread MARTYN SYMMONS
, 1954. 44, 1998. 45, 2042. 46, 2086. 47, 2130. --- On Thu, 12/8/10, Ed Pozharski epozh...@umaryland.edu wrote: From: Ed Pozharski epozh...@umaryland.edu Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] PEG in the pdb? To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Date: Thursday, 12 August, 2010, 17:35 PEG solutions contain fragments

Re: [ccp4bb] PEG in the pdb?

2010-08-12 Thread Ed Pozharski
...@umaryland.edu wrote: From: Ed Pozharski epozh...@umaryland.edu Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] PEG in the pdb? To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Date: Thursday, 12 August, 2010, 17:35 PEG solutions contain fragments of all sizes - it is the average size (however defined by the manufacturer) that is 1000