Re: [ccp4bb] Pseudo-symmetry/refinement

2010-10-18 Thread Esko Oksanen
Seema, The problem actually originates from the scaling of the data that assumes a monomodal distritbution of the intensities. This is not the case with pseudotranslation and there are two sets of reflections: the weak, pseudo-absent reflections and the strong reflections. The scaling

Re: [ccp4bb] Pseudo-symmetry/refinement

2010-10-18 Thread Eleanor Dodson
How can you have 3 copies and one strong pseudo translation?You probably need an even number of molecules with pairs related by the translation vector. Eleanor .. On 10/17/2010 05:48 AM, Mike John wrote: Hi all, The data is 2.2A, p41212, unit cell has c axis twice longer than a or b.

Re: [ccp4bb] Pseudo-symmetry/refinement

2010-10-17 Thread Seema Nath
Would you please explain how to proceed for "rigid body refinement against weak reflection" & "normal restrained refinement against strong reflection".

Re: [ccp4bb] Pseudo-symmetry/refinement

2010-10-17 Thread Esko Oksanen
Mike, You could try rigid body refinement against the weak reflections to get the position of the molecules right and then normal restrained refinement against the strong reflections. I had a case like this some years ago and that helped... Esko On 17.10.2010, at 6.48, Mike John wr

[ccp4bb] Pseudo-symmetry/refinement

2010-10-16 Thread Mike John
Hi all, The data is 2.2A, p41212, unit cell has c axis twice longer than a or b. Data processed by HKL2000, the diffraction pattern shows Strong-weak-weak in C direction, indicating translational pseudo-symmetry. Xtriage analysis confirmed the pseudo-symmetry (large Patterson off-origin pe