Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzling Structure

2013-04-30 Thread MARTYN SYMMONS
tarts with c axis reflections including 0, 0, l odd as well as even, which is sort of a hint here From: MARTYN SYMMONS To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Sent: Tuesday, 16 April 2013, 14:30 Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzling Structure Just as a postscript. It has

Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzling Structure

2013-04-16 Thread MARTYN SYMMONS
t not over-written).    Cheers    Martyn  From: Michel Fodje To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Sent: Monday, 15 April 2013, 17:19 Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzling Structure Just to round up this topic, a bug report was submitted to PDBe concerning entry 2wlv and the P

Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzling Structure

2013-04-15 Thread Huw Jenkins
On 15 Apr 2013, at 17:19, Michel Fodje wrote: > I imagine somebody accidentally deleted a space between P 21 21 2 and 18 and > tried to fix it by adding it back, between 1 and 8. As this has now been mentioned twice in this discussion it should probably be noted for the archives that the la

Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzling Structure

2013-04-15 Thread Michel Fodje
18 and tried to fix it by adding it back, between 1 and 8. /Michel >-Original Message- >From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of >Edward A. Berry >Sent: April-14-13 9:59 AM >To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK >Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzling S

Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzling Structure

2013-04-14 Thread Edward A. Berry
Robbie Joosten wrote: Hi Martyn, I think the question is where the error was made - seeing the uploaded file would clear this up. But it seems unlikely to me that the depositor saw a huge R factor discrepancy at the end of refinement and just blithely uploaded it. So scenario 3 :- PDB : we

Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzling Structure

2013-04-14 Thread Pavel Afonine
Hi Robbie, >Which seems a sort of reasonable attitude to me. > Not quite, the depositor has to give, i.e. type, the space group what I don't get is why one needs to type in this information if it is already present in both, model and data files? Any human typing is typo prone. Ideally depos

Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzling Structure

2013-04-14 Thread Robbie Joosten
ups but contains not a single ANISOU line!... > >I'm not a big fan of using ANISOU records for TLS contributions anyway > >;-) But, more seriously, PDB entries should adhere to the PDB standard. > > > >Cheers, > >Robbie > > > > > >> > >> >

Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzling Structure

2013-04-13 Thread Robbie Joosten
this particular case attempting to calculate R-factor using data and model > files and making sure that the R you get is not twice as large as published one > would entirely suffice -:) > > Pavel > > ____ > > From: Robbie Joosten > To:

Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzling Structure

2013-04-13 Thread MARTYN SYMMONS
sing data and model files and making sure that the R you get is not twice as large as published one would entirely suffice -:) Pavel From: Robbie Joosten To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Sent: Friday, 12 April 2013, 22:57 Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzling Struct

Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzling Structure

2013-04-12 Thread Robbie Joosten
f Of > Garib N Murshudov > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 21:39 > To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzling Structure > > It is typo: > R factor for p212121 - 0.4 >for p21212- around 0.18 > > Although water seem to have been moved around u

Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzling Structure

2013-04-12 Thread Pavel Afonine
;Michel Fodje" >> написал: >> >> By the way, you will need to show symmetry atoms to see the problem. >> >> >-Original Message- >> >From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of >> >Michel Fodje >> >Sent

Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzling Structure

2013-04-12 Thread Garib N Murshudov
t; To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzling Structure > > By the way, you will need to show symmetry atoms to see the problem. > >> -Original Message- >> From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of >> Michel Fodje >&g

Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzling Structure

2013-04-12 Thread Savvas Savvides
i meant to say P21212 On 12 Apr 2013, at 21:47, Savvas Savvides wrote: > The CRYST1 in the pdb header is problematic. > CRYST1 95.520 47.815 88.570 90.00 90.00 90.00 P 21 21 218 > it looks like the number '1' was paired to the space group rather than the > space grop number (i.e.

Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzling Structure

2013-04-12 Thread Savvas Savvides
The CRYST1 in the pdb header is problematic. CRYST1 95.520 47.815 88.570 90.00 90.00 90.00 P 21 21 218 it looks like the number '1' was paired to the space group rather than the space grop number (i.e. nr. 18 for P21212) Table 1 in the paper specifies P212121 as the space group.

Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzling Structure

2013-04-12 Thread Eugene Osipov
ь "Michel Fodje" > написал: > > By the way, you will need to show symmetry atoms to see the problem. > > >-Original Message- > >From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of > >Michel Fodje > >Sent: April-12-13 1:14 PM > &

Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzling Structure

2013-04-12 Thread Pavel Afonine
> From: CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] on behalf of Michel > Fodje [michel.fo...@lightsource.ca] > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 2:17 PM > To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzling Structure > > By the way, you will need to show symmetry atoms to se

Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzling Structure

2013-04-12 Thread Eugene Osipov
ll need to show symmetry atoms to see the problem. >-Original Message- >From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of >Michel Fodje >Sent: April-12-13 1:14 PM >To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK >Subject: [ccp4bb] Puzzling Structure > >Has anyone else no

Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzling Structure

2013-04-12 Thread Phoebe A. Rice
2:17 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzling Structure By the way, you will need to show symmetry atoms to see the problem. >-Original Message- >From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of >Michel Fodje >Sent: April-12-13 1:1

Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzling Structure

2013-04-12 Thread Michel Fodje
By the way, you will need to show symmetry atoms to see the problem. >-Original Message- >From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of >Michel Fodje >Sent: April-12-13 1:14 PM >To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK >Subject: [ccp4bb] Puzzling Structure

[ccp4bb] Puzzling Structure

2013-04-12 Thread Michel Fodje
Has anyone else noticed a problem with the structure of the N-terminal capsid domain of HIV-2 PDB 2wlv. Load it up to in coot and navigate to residue B118. /Michel.