Re: [ccp4bb] Using multiple crystals for structure solution in P1 using MAD/SAS/SAD

2008-07-23 Thread Kay Diederichs
hari jayaram schrieb: ... I was wondering if anyone could comment on combining datasets from multiple P1 crystals to increase the redundancy even further for such heavy atom ( SAS / SAD ) or MAD experiments. Hari, well, my comment would be that it should be possible in principle from what

Re: [ccp4bb] Using multiple crystals for structure solution in P1 using MAD/SAS/SAD

2008-07-23 Thread Bart Hazes
Increasing redundancy only helps if all data draw from the same distribution so you get a more accurate estimate of the mean of the distribution. When dealing with different crystals, crystal-to-crystal variation is likely larger than the anomalous signal you are looking for and I'm therefore

Re: [ccp4bb] Using multiple crystals for structure solution in P1 using MAD/SAS/SAD

2008-07-23 Thread Jacob Keller
] *** - Original Message - From: Bart Hazes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 10:05 AM Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Using multiple crystals for structure solution in P1 using MAD/SAS/SAD Increasing redundancy only helps if all data

Re: [ccp4bb] Using multiple crystals for structure solution in P1 using MAD/SAS/SAD

2008-07-23 Thread Phil Evans
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Re: [ccp4bb] Using multiple crystals for structure solution in P1 using MAD/SAS/SAD

2008-07-23 Thread Bram Schierbeek
] *** - Original Message - From: Bart Hazes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 10:05 AM Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Using multiple crystals for structure solution in P1 using MAD/SAS/SAD Increasing redundancy only helps if all data draw from the same distribution

Re: [ccp4bb] Using multiple crystals for structure solution in P1 using MAD/SAS/SAD

2008-07-23 Thread George M. Sheldrick
] *** - Original Message - From: Bart Hazes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 10:05 AM Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Using multiple crystals for structure solution in P1 using MAD/SAS/SAD Increasing redundancy only

[ccp4bb] Using multiple crystals for structure solution in P1 using MAD/SAS/SAD

2008-07-22 Thread hari jayaram
We are faced with phasing a structure for a protein that refuses to crystallize in any spacegroup but P1. To add to the fun , the resolution for most selenomethionine and heavy atom soak datasets ranges from 3.8 to 4.2 A . In order to increase the redundancy we have been taking many inverse