Re: [ccp4bb] frozen pellet insoluble protein

2014-09-30 Thread Sabine Buschmann
Dear Andreas, maybe the problem is rather rooted in your expression set up. If the protein was soluble in the small scale test, it is not necessarily the case in a fermenter run. The parameters may have changed so strongly that your protein is now expressed mostly insoluble. To my experience,

Re: [ccp4bb] frozen pellet insoluble protein

2014-09-30 Thread Patrick Shaw Stewart
Andreas, you probably know all this, but I only understood quite recently. What happens is that as ice crystals form you get brine rejection, the same thing that happens in the arctic when sea water freezes. Therefore you can have protein concentrated in pockets of high salt. Fine for some

[ccp4bb] frozen pellet insoluble protein

2014-09-29 Thread Andreas Förster
Dear all, I've encountered people who refuse to freeze cells and always lyse fresh pellets. Better protein, they say. I've never had reason to do so myself, or even to believe in their voodoo. Up until now, maybe. My protein expresses well and is almost all in the soluble fraction in an

Re: [ccp4bb] frozen pellet insoluble protein

2014-09-29 Thread Roger Rowlett
I have experience with some proteins that don't tolerate freeze-thawing very well. It's hard to say exactly what the physical chemistry of this is, but it probably relates to (1) aggregation due to high concentration or protein or salts during the freezing process as water is removed, and/or