Re: [ccp4bb] help me after several refmac

2011-10-17 Thread Eleanor Dodson
This Ltest certainly doesnt look twinned. But your R factors are indictive of "mostly correct but still problems". Didnt someone suggest running Arp-Warp to rebuild the structure? This might reinterpret any dodgy bits. Eleanor On 10/14/2011 02:52 AM, 王瑞 wrote: > After L-test,the result are fol

Re: [ccp4bb] help me after several refmac

2011-10-13 Thread 王瑞
After L-test,the result are follows: TWINNING ANALYSIS: First principles calculation of potential twinning operators using code by Andrey Lebedev: First principles calculation has found 0 potential twinning operators No twinning detected $TABLE: L test for twinning: $GRAPHS: cumulative distribu

Re: [ccp4bb] help me after several refmac

2011-10-13 Thread Xiaopeng Hu
Dear Yuri, Could you give out the details? Such as how you found the twins? 2-Could have twinning? I recently just got done working on a structure that could be scaled in C 2 2 21 but turned out to really be an almost perfect P21 twin. (of course in monoclinic there are certain conditions for tw

Re: [ccp4bb] help me after several refmac

2011-10-13 Thread Pete Meyer
Similar to Tim's suggestion, but your low resolution limit may be too low (check refmac's chart of R vs resolution to confirm this). Pete 王瑞 wrote: hello everyone: Excuse me, could anyone give me some suggestions? Afetr several cycles of refmac, it give me such a result:

Re: [ccp4bb] help me after several refmac

2011-10-13 Thread Yuri Pompeu
Echoing whats been said: 1- Are you sure your crystal really is in C 2 2 21? If so How good is your data (completeness, Rmerge, etc...) 2-Could have twinning? I recently just got done working on a structure that could be scaled in C 2 2 21 but turned out to really be an almost perfect P21 twin.

Re: [ccp4bb] help me after several refmac

2011-10-13 Thread Eleanor Dodson
On 10/13/2011 12:14 PM, 王瑞 wrote: hello everyone: Excuse me, could anyone give me some suggestions? Afetr several cycles of refmac, it give me such a result: InitialFinal R factor0.2540 0.2531 R f

Re: [ccp4bb] help me after several refmac

2011-10-13 Thread Tim Gruene
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear , - - how complete is your model compared to the sequence expected in the crystal? If it is not very complete, yet, your R-values might diverge - - Your RMS BondAngle is pretty high. Set the matrix weight manually to a lower number (0.1 or less)

Re: [ccp4bb] help me after several refmac

2011-10-13 Thread Roger Rowlett
Possibility of twinning? A simple way to check this at this point is to turn on the twin option in refmac and examine the log file. Twinning can cause you to get stuck at high R values in unaccounted for. Roger Rowlett On Oct 13, 2011 7:14 AM, "王瑞" wrote: > hello everyone: > > Excuse me, cou

[ccp4bb] help me after several refmac

2011-10-13 Thread 王瑞
hello everyone: Excuse me, could anyone give me some suggestions? Afetr several cycles of refmac, it give me such a result: InitialFinal R factor0.2540 0.2531 R free0.3499 0.3500 Rms BondLeng