Re: [ccp4bb] ligand bonds (AlF3) breaking up after refinement in refmac

2015-01-29 Thread Paul Emsley
On 28/01/15 21:05, ansuman biswas wrote: Dear All, I checked the Mg2+ B factor, and it was around 22. So, were the values for F atoms. For AlF3, it was more than 50 for Al and more than 40 for F atoms. I will take care about the occupancy. I hope that will fix the small negative density.

[ccp4bb] ligand bonds (AlF3) breaking up after refinement in refmac

2015-01-28 Thread ansuman biswas
Dear All, I checked the Mg2+ B factor, and it was around 22. So, were the values for F atoms. For AlF3, it was more than 50 for Al and more than 40 for F atoms. I will take care about the occupancy. I hope that will fix the small negative density. When I inserted MgF in COOT using the code

Re: [ccp4bb] ligand bonds (AlF3) breaking up after refinement in refmac

2015-01-19 Thread ansuman biswas
Dear All, I checked the Mg2+ B factor, and it was around 22. So, were the values for F atoms. For AlF3, it was more than 50 for Al and more than 40 for F atoms. I will take care about the occupancy. I hope that will fix the small negative density. When I inserted MgF in COOT using the code MGF

Re: [ccp4bb] ligand bonds (AlF3) breaking up after refinement in refmac

2015-01-18 Thread Matthew Bowler
Hi Ansuman, I think that the refinement is putting the atoms in the right place so there is no 'exploding', 1.8 to 1.9A is the ideal length for Mg-F. Even though you did not add Mg, if it is required for catalysis there must be some around and this would then recruited into the MgF3-. As

Re: [ccp4bb] ligand bonds (AlF3) breaking up after refinement in refmac

2015-01-17 Thread Matthew BOWLER
Dear Ansuman, I agree with Matthew that the refinement seems to be OK - the reason the bonds are longer is because what you actually have bound is MgF3- and not AlF3. MgF3- is a much better transition state analogue as it is isosteric and isoelectronic with a transferring phosphoryl group. At

Re: [ccp4bb] ligand bonds (AlF3) breaking up after refinement in refmac

2015-01-16 Thread Matthew Franklin
Dear Anusman - It actually looks like the refinement didn't go so badly (the atoms are all in electron density), it's just that the Al - F bond lengths are a bit too long for Coot to draw them as bonds. I don't know what the correct bond distances should be (consult the literature and the