[ccp4bb] on NCS restraint

2015-04-16 Thread Smith Lee
Dear All, If a protein contains 6 subunits, 4 subunits from the same sequence (subunit A, B, C, D all from the same sequence), each of the 2 other subunits from 2 diffrent sequences (subunit E from the second sequence, subunit F from the third sequence), in this situation should I use NCS restr

Re: [ccp4bb] on NCS restraint

2015-04-16 Thread Jurgen Bosch
yes. Have two sets of NCS operators one that describe the four subunits and one describing the two subunits. If during the refinement of your structure you should find out that the subunits are not identical to each other you can relax the NCS weights. Jürgen .. Jürgen Bosch

Re: [ccp4bb] on NCS restraint

2015-04-16 Thread Smith Liu
Dear Jurgen, My understanding is that NCS restraint can significantly enhance the speed of calculation, but considering the subunits even with the eactly same sequence may not be identical, to have NCS restraint may be not necessary or may be not good for the refinement, am I right? Smith

Re: [ccp4bb] on NCS restraint

2015-04-16 Thread Robbie Joosten
to:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> Onderwerp: Re: [ccp4bb] on NCS restraint Dear Jurgen, My understanding is that NCS restraint can significantly enhance the speed of calculation, but considering the subunits even with the eactly same sequence may not be identical, to have NCS restraint may be not necessary o

Re: [ccp4bb] on NCS restraint

2015-04-16 Thread Eleanor Dodson
://xtal.nki.nl/PDB_REDO > > Sent with my Windows Phone > -- > Van: Smith Liu > Verzonden: ‎17-‎4-‎2015 06:03 > Aan: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Onderwerp: Re: [ccp4bb] on NCS restraint > > Dear Jurgen, > > My understanding is tha

Re: [ccp4bb] on NCS restraint

2015-04-20 Thread Pavel Afonine
My understanding is that NCS restraint can significantly enhance the speed > of calculation, but considering the subunits even with the eactly same > sequence may not be identical, to have NCS restraint may be not necessary > or may be not good for the refinement, am I right? > Non-crystallograph

Re: [ccp4bb] on NCS restraint

2015-04-21 Thread Sheriff, Steven
orge Sheldrick. Steven -- Date:Mon, 20 Apr 2015 10:38:27 + From: Reza Khayat mailto:rkha...@ccny.cuny.edu>> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] on NCS restraint Hi, The purpose of NCS is to reduce the degrees of freedom in order to avoid over refineme

Re: [ccp4bb] on NCS restraint

2015-04-21 Thread Victor Lamzin
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] on NCS restraint   Hi,   The purpose of NCS is to reduce the degrees of freedom in order to avoid over refinement -not only to expedite refinement. Strict or restrained NCS should be applied at lower resolutions (<

Re: [ccp4bb] on NCS restraint

2015-04-21 Thread Reza Khayat
AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] on NCS restraint Hi all, We have carried out a large-scale test of the use of Refmac's NCS-restraints during model building with ARP/wARP. We have found advantageous to have such restraints turned on with data resolution extending to as high as 1.5 A. Victor On

Re: [ccp4bb] on NCS restraint

2015-04-21 Thread Victor Lamzin
IL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] on NCS restraint   Hi all, We have carried out a large-scale test of the use of Refmac's NCS-restraints during model building with ARP/wARP. We have found ad

Re: [ccp4bb] on NCS restraint

2015-04-21 Thread Sheriff, Steven
t I guess my unconscious got the better of me. Steven From: Victor Lamzin [mailto:vic...@embl-hamburg.de] Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 9:07 AM To: Sheriff, Steven; CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] on NCS restraint Hi all, We have carried out a large-scale test of the use of Refma

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] on NCS restraint

2015-04-20 Thread Herman . Schreuder
an 2.0 Å resolution, including NCS restraints would probably not make a big difference, but otherwise I would switch them on. Best, Herman Von: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] Im Auftrag von Smith Liu Gesendet: Freitag, 17. April 2015 06:02 An: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Betreff:

Re: [ccp4bb] [ccp4bb] on NCS restraint

2015-04-20 Thread Reza Khayat
g von Smith Liu Gesendet: Freitag, 17. April 2015 06:02 An: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> Betreff: Re: [ccp4bb] on NCS restraint Dear Jurgen, My understanding is that NCS restraint can significantly enhance the speed of calculation, but considering the subunits even with the

Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] on NCS restraint

2015-04-20 Thread Robbie Joosten
respect to strict NCS. It is much less common now, but I still find the odd new one :( Cheers, Robbie Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 08:01:26 + From: herman.schreu...@sanofi.com Subject: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] on NCS restraint To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Dear Smith, There used to be someth