Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-07 Thread Dave Wade
Personally I think anything with castors on On Jul 8, 2015 7:37 AM, "P Gebhardt" wrote: > > > - Ursprüngliche Message - > > Von: Johnny Billquist > > An: cct...@classiccmp.org > > CC: > > Gesendet: 23:02 Dienstag, 7.Juli 2015 > > Betreff: Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-07 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2015-07-07 23:55, Robert Armstrong wrote: Johnny Billquist bqt at update.uu.se wrote: some of the 8000-series stuff are probably the biggest ... Not all of them. The 82xx/83xx family was just one 10-1/2" chassis for the CPU - the same physical size as a 11/730, yet they were genuine sing

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-07 Thread Antonio Carlini
On 07/07/15 23:02, Johnny Billquist wrote: Right. But I did say "some". :-) Think 8978 for example... Does that really count as a VAX? It was just a marketing name for cluster ... Antonio

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-07 Thread P Gebhardt
- Ursprüngliche Message - > Von: Johnny Billquist > An: cct...@classiccmp.org > CC: > Gesendet: 23:02 Dienstag, 7.Juli 2015 > Betreff: Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750) > > On 2015-07-07 23:55, Robert Armstrong wrote: >>> Johnny Billquist bqt at update.uu.se wrote:

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-07 Thread Robert Armstrong
>Johnny Billquist bqt at update.uu.se wrote: >some of the 8000-series stuff are probably the biggest ... Not all of them. The 82xx/83xx family was just one 10-1/2" chassis for the CPU - the same physical size as a 11/730, yet they were genuine single or dual CPU BI bus VAXen. Of course, many o

SDK-86 Chess source code, anybody?

2015-07-07 Thread Randy Dawson
I have the docs and the ROM images from Nigel, but not the source. I did my share of googling, nothing but a piece or two, and not the whole thing. Anybody have this? Thanks, Randy

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-07 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2015-07-07 23:30, Robert Armstrong wrote: P Gebhardt p.gebhardt at ymail.com wrote: wonder how the ratio of VAX 6000s and 7000s in enthusiasts' hands compared of VAX 11's in terms of numbers is? I guess that /780 and larger systems are rare, but I'd guess that there are some more /730 and /750

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-07 Thread Robert Armstrong
>P Gebhardt p.gebhardt at ymail.com wrote: > wonder how the ratio of VAX 6000s and 7000s in enthusiasts' hands > compared of VAX 11's in terms of numbers is? I guess that /780 and > larger systems are rare, but I'd guess that there are some more /730 > and /750 around. No idea if my gut feeling ref

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-07 Thread william degnan
There is a HECNET list http://madame.update.uu.se/~bqt/nodedb?search=&field=0&sort=0 With that in mind, a more list of "live" VAXen of any type, operating hours, IP/domain, hardware, owner, location. I realize it's not a list of every known VAX out there, but "live/operational/networking status"

Re: Looking for SGI Onyx parts

2015-07-07 Thread Ian Finder
Awesome, mike. Will do. Thanks much. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 6, 2015, at 13:07, Mike Ross wrote: > > Poke me in a couple of weeks when I'm back home in NZ; I have an > operational Onyx and a few spare boards... > > Mike >> On Jul 6, 2015 9:53 PM, "Ian Finder" wrote: >> >> I recently pic

Re: email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread John Robertson
On 07/07/2015 6:14 PM, Chris Osborn wrote: Begin forwarded message: From: John Robertson Subject: Re: email gripe Date: July 7, 2015 at 6:03:49 PM PDT To: gene...@classiccmp.org, "discuss...@classiccmp.org":On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Reply-To: pinb...@telus.net, "General Discussion: On

Re: email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 07/07/2015 08:29 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: On Tue, 7 Jul 2015, Chuck Guzis wrote: Let's see if my reply has the same problem as Chris cited. Yep! It took "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" and parsed it into: gene...@classiccmp.org, discuss...@classiccmp.org:On-Topic

Re: email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread Fred Cisin
On Tue, 7 Jul 2015, Chuck Guzis wrote: Let's see if my reply has the same problem as Chris cited. Yep! It took "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" and parsed it into: gene...@classiccmp.org, discuss...@classiccmp.org:On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts

Re: email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 07/07/2015 07:27 PM, wulfman wrote: yes html email gets deleted for the most part I don't have that option--customers send whatever they want. Another annoyance is when they send attachments in that Outlook winmail.dat format. I think that Libre office can open it. --Chuck

Re: email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 07/07/2015 06:41 PM, jwsmobile wrote: Thunderbird does have a bad habit of interpolating and remembering typos, however, so if you at some point in time type in gene...@classicmp.org, there is an entry in the Thunderbird address book called "collected addresses". It may have your general @ c

Re: email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread wulfman
yes html email gets deleted for the most part On 7/7/2015 7:13 PM, Jay West wrote: > Chris wrote... > > Boy, count another vote against HTML-izing this list if that's what's being > considered. > - > No, forcing the list to send email as HTML has never been done, nor is it > being considered.

RE: email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread Jay West
Chris wrote... Boy, count another vote against HTML-izing this list if that's what's being considered. - No, forcing the list to send email as HTML has never been done, nor is it being considered. I do believe there is an option where each member can set their subscription to be plain text,

Re: email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread jwsmobile
On 7/7/2015 6:14 PM, Chris Osborn wrote: Begin forwarded message: From: John Robertson Subject: Re: email gripe Date: July 7, 2015 at 6:03:49 PM PDT To: gene...@classiccmp.org, "discuss...@classiccmp.org":On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Reply-To: pinb...@telus.net, "General Discussion: On

Re: email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread Chris Osborn
Begin forwarded message: > From: John Robertson > Subject: Re: email gripe > Date: July 7, 2015 at 6:03:49 PM PDT > To: gene...@classiccmp.org, > "discuss...@classiccmp.org":On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > > Reply-To: pinb...@telus.net, "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic > Posts"

Re: email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread Sean Conner
It was thus said that the Great jwsmobile once stated: > > > On 7/7/2015 12:43 PM, Sean Conner wrote: > >It was thus said that the Great jwsmobile once stated: > >>sending live URL's in the text that don't require a multi step copy > >>paste, or even save email edit, feed to lynx would be nice.

Re: email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread John Robertson
On 07/07/2015 4:44 PM, Chris Osborn wrote: On Jul 7, 2015, at 4:18 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: using Thunderbird Which I’ve noticed has problems parsing the "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" No matter which platform anyone is using, it’s always Thunderbird that creates

Re: email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread jwsmobile
On 7/7/2015 5:43 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: On Jul 7, 2015, at 3:43 PM, jwsmobile wrote: If there were a technical reason to keep it in a simple format that would be fine, but as Al K pointed out quite some time ago, Google already indexes all of this quite fine as it and most search engi

Re: email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread jwsmobile
On 7/7/2015 4:18 PM, Vincent Slyngstad wrote: From: jwsmobile: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 3:43 PM If there were a technical reason to keep it in a simple format that would be fine, but as Al K pointed out quite some time ago, Google already indexes all of this quite fine as it and most search eng

Re: email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread Chris Elmquist
On Tuesday (07/07/2015 at 04:18PM -0700), Vincent Slyngstad wrote: > > For me, HTML mail is disdained because it's a security nightmare. > I don't want to worry about transparent tracking images, cookies, > javascript, and who knows what else they've invented or will invent. > > I just want to re

Re: email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2015-07-08 01:44, Chris Osborn wrote: On Jul 7, 2015, at 4:18 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: using Thunderbird Which I’ve noticed has problems parsing the "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" No matter which platform anyone is using, it’s always Thunderbird that creates

Re: email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread Dale H. Cook
At 07:18 PM 7/7/2015, Vincent Slyngstad wrote: >For me, HTML mail is disdained because it's a security nightmare. >I don't want to worry about transparent tracking images, cookies, javascript, >and who knows what else they've invented or will invent. That is one reason why I still run Eudora Pro

Re: email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread Chris Osborn
On Jul 7, 2015, at 4:18 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: > using Thunderbird Which I’ve noticed has problems parsing the "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" No matter which platform anyone is using, it’s always Thunderbird that creates the gene...@classiccmp.org address into

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-07 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2015-07-08 01:25, Antonio Carlini wrote: On 07/07/15 23:06, Johnny Billquist wrote: I honestly don't have a good idea of what defines a "large" VAX. Buses feels unsuitable. Power connector maybe? :-) If the intention is to avoid a huge list then excluding MicroVAXes and VAXstations should

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-07 Thread Antonio Carlini
On 07/07/15 23:06, Johnny Billquist wrote: I honestly don't have a good idea of what defines a "large" VAX. Buses feels unsuitable. Power connector maybe? :-) If the intention is to avoid a huge list then excluding MicroVAXes and VAXstations should produce a list of VAXen that you probably

Re: email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 07/07/2015 03:43 PM, jwsmobile wrote: I just don't see inconveniencing an entire list because a few people want to run on internet connected 286 machines, with attached ASR33's. And to say that should carry much weight on selecting the format of the email is pretty inconsiderate to everyone.

Re: email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread Vincent Slyngstad
From: jwsmobile: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 3:43 PM If there were a technical reason to keep it in a simple format that would be fine, but as Al K pointed out quite some time ago, Google already indexes all of this quite fine as it and most search engines do, so the list is text searchable. For m

Re: email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread jwsmobile
On 7/7/2015 12:43 PM, Sean Conner wrote: It was thus said that the Great jwsmobile once stated: sending live URL's in the text that don't require a multi step copy paste, or even save email edit, feed to lynx would be nice. Html email does that. There are some on this list (such as I) tha

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-07 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2015-07-07 23:49, tony duell wrote: I'd say any VAX with a UNIBUS, SDI, BI or XMI bus, at least, should qualify. I think that would include all the 7xx, 6xxx, 8xxx, and 7xxx/1 machines. I don't really know what was in a 9000... 9000 is also XMI. Several of them, if I remember r

RE: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-07 Thread tony duell
> >I'd say any VAX with a UNIBUS, SDI, BI or XMI bus, at least, should > > qualify. I think that would include all the > > 7xx, 6xxx, 8xxx, and 7xxx/1 machines. I don't really know what was in > > a 9000... > > 9000 is also XMI. Several of them, if I remember right. SDI on the other

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-07 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2015-07-07 20:54, Robert Armstrong wrote: I'd vote for "big VAX" list. I'd say any VAX with a UNIBUS, SDI, BI or XMI bus, at least, should qualify. I think that would include all the 7xx, 6xxx, 8xxx, and 7xxx/1 machines. I don't really know what was in a 9000... 9000 is also XMI

RE: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-07 Thread tony duell
> BTW, is this list limited to machines that are in operable condition? I would include machines that were clearly restorable. OK, anything can be restored, but you know what I mean :-). In other words an 11/730 or 11/750 that needs its TU58 rollers replaced, or an 11/780 that needs somebody

RE: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-07 Thread Robert Armstrong
>I'd vote for "big VAX" list. I'd say any VAX with a UNIBUS, SDI, BI or XMI bus, at least, should qualify. I think that would include all the 7xx, 6xxx, 8xxx, and 7xxx/1 machines. I don't really know what was in a 9000... BTW, is this list limited to machines that are in operable con

Re: email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread Mouse
>> sending live URL's in the text that don't require a multi step copy >> paste, or even save email edit, feed to lynx would be nice. This is a client-side issue; there is no need to uglify the rest of the email just because someone has an email reader that doesn't know what to do with URLs. >> H

Re: List Gripes

2015-07-07 Thread Sean Conner
It was thus said that the Great couryho...@aol.com once stated: > Dwight, yes I think so as I am on many lists and some hate the > aol address more than others do I've had my fights with AOL (since I run my own email server). I think in the end, I had to tell AOL that I was res

Re: email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread Sean Conner
It was thus said that the Great jwsmobile once stated: > > sending live URL's in the text that don't require a multi step copy > paste, or even save email edit, feed to lynx would be nice. Html email > does that. There are some on this list (such as I) that do not use a graphical email clien

Re: List Gripes

2015-07-07 Thread Sean Conner
It was thus said that the Great william degnan once stated: > I have found that bounces can be reduced if you play around with the > receiving mail server.For example, turn off greylisting (returns 400 > level codes some servers don't like). I do greylisting on my email server [1] and I have

RE: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-07 Thread Jay West
Should the requirement be weight, physical size, or what tools are lost in it? BTU requirements.

Re: PDP-11/23, accessories, software, manuals and IBM portable available (South Africa)

2015-07-07 Thread Jarratt RMA
Would love a VT125, is shipping to the UK likely to be expensive? On 7 July 2015 at 12:25, Steve Maddison wrote: > I was contacted by a chap in South Africa (Pretoria area) who has the > following kit available. If interested, please reply to me directly and > I'll put you in touch. > > * PDP-11

Re: List Gripes

2015-07-07 Thread COURYHOUSE
Dwight, yes I think so as I am on many lists and some hate the aol address more than others do Ed# In a message dated 7/7/2015 7:29:43 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, dkel...@hotmail.com writes: As providers get more crowded, they will have more bounces. They tend to ha

Re: email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread jwsmobile
sending live URL's in the text that don't require a multi step copy paste, or even save email edit, feed to lynx would be nice. Html email does that. thanks Jim On 7/7/2015 7:44 AM, dwight wrote: What happened to email. If your into looking at something, look at the source of this simple e

Re: List Gripes

2015-07-07 Thread william degnan
I have found that bounces can be reduced if you play around with the receiving mail server.For example, turn off greylisting (returns 400 level codes some servers don't like). On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 10:37 AM, Mouse wrote: > > I've only been back on the list for about a week and already it ha

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-07 Thread Fred Cisin
I'd vote for "big VAX" list. The minutiae of marketing names is pretty boring and irrelevant to such a list isn't it? Should the requirement be weight, physical size, or what tools are lost in it?

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-07 Thread P Gebhardt
>> Sorry for the scope creep; but perhaps it might be more >> useful/interesting to make it a registry of any VAX that has a name of >> the form "VAX-11/7xx"? (Which could also include the VAX 8600 and > VAX >> 8650, since were originally to be called the VAX-11/790 and >> VAX-11/795.) >

email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread dwight
What happened to email. If your into looking at something, look at the source of this simple email. What is all that html code for? This is just a few simple text strings with nothing special needed. Dwight

Re: List Gripes

2015-07-07 Thread Mouse
> I've only been back on the list for about a week and already it has > determined that my address has too many bounces. > There must be a parameter that can be set to adjust the sensitivity. I wouldn't count on it. I've already run into aspects of mailman which exhibit astonishing blind spots.

RE: List Gripes

2015-07-07 Thread dwight
As providers get more crowded, they will have more bounces. They tend to happen at times when a lot of messages are being handled. It seems that the list parameters were set when only a few bounces happened. Times have changed. I've only been back on the list for about a week and already it has d

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-07 Thread Toby Thain
On 2015-07-06 11:17 PM, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove wrote: On 6 July 2015 at 23:03, Alan Perry wrote: Is there any interest in starting a VAX-11/750 registry? I wouldn't mind knowing who else out there has one and where they are now. If you are interested, send me e-mail (vax11-...@snowmoose.co

PDP-11/23, accessories, software, manuals and IBM portable available (South Africa)

2015-07-07 Thread Steve Maddison
I was contacted by a chap in South Africa (Pretoria area) who has the following kit available. If interested, please reply to me directly and I'll put you in touch. * PDP-11/23, with dual RL02 drives and 9 disks * 2x VT100, one modified to VT125 * DecPrinter III * HP 70470A plotter * RSX11-M 4 wit

Masscomp MC-500 - Re: cctech Digest, Vol 13, Issue 5

2015-07-07 Thread Toby Thain
On 2015-07-06 3:33 PM, Clem Cole wrote: ... One other note about the MC-500. If was the first commercial Multiprocessor UNIX (predating the 386 bases symmetric boxes but a few years) as well as being the first real time UNIX box. I still have working one in my basement. It has 4 CPU boards i

Re: cctech Digest, Vol 13, Issue 5

2015-07-07 Thread Clem Cole
On Sun, Jul 5, 2015 at 1:00 PM, wrote: > Having the primary CPU just stall, and have the second CPU normally just > be idle until a page fault happens on the other hand is something I can see > how it could be done. ​Indeed that is exactly how it was done on the Masscomp MC-500 and I believe th