Re: SDK-86 Chess source code, anybody?

2015-07-08 Thread Nigel Williams
On 8 Jul 2015, at 7:57 am, Randy Dawson rdawso...@hotmail.com wrote: Anybody have this? I'm interested too please.

Re: email gripe

2015-07-08 Thread Peter Coghlan
jwsmobile j...@jwsss.com wrote: On 7/7/2015 12:43 PM, Sean Conner wrote: It was thus said that the Great jwsmobile once stated: sending live URL's in the text that don't require a multi step copy paste, or even save email edit, feed to lynx would be nice. Html email does that. There are

Re: email gripe

2015-07-08 Thread geneb
On Tue, 7 Jul 2015, Sean Conner wrote: [2] mutt. I was forced to upgrade a decade ago because elm was no longer maintained and non-Y2K compliant (I think that's why I switched). Alpine Forever! :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one

Re: email gripe

2015-07-08 Thread Fred Cisin
Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you! :-) We had some difficulties with college administrators that resulted in, The question is not 'are you paranoid?'; the question is 'are you paranoid enough?' (There is no expectation of privacy for any actions taken on the

Re: email gripe

2015-07-08 Thread Dave Woyciesjes
On 07/07/2015 11:24 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: On 07/07/2015 07:27 PM, wulfman wrote: yes html email gets deleted for the most part I don't have that option--customers send whatever they want. Another annoyance is when they send attachments in that Outlook winmail.dat format. I think that Libre

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-08 Thread Fred Cisin
On Wed, 8 Jul 2015, Dave Wade wrote: Personally I think anything with castors on No. I have a PC server case from late 286 era with tiny casters. But, it was nice to be able to have more than 4 full-height drives.

Re: email gripe

2015-07-08 Thread Dave Woyciesjes
On 07/07/2015 09:06 PM, Sean Conner wrote: ...But I've tried using a GUI to check email and frankly, I found it too painful to use. It wasn't that the GUI was confusing or inconsistent, but that it was *way too slow*. Sluggish to display, and painfully slow to download (it's not unusual

Re: email gripe

2015-07-08 Thread Dave Woyciesjes
On 07/08/2015 10:25 AM, Todd Goodman wrote: * Dave Woyciesjes woycies...@sbcglobal.net [150708 10:17]: On 07/07/2015 07:18 PM, Vincent Slyngstad wrote: From: jwsmobile: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 3:43 PM If there were a technical reason to keep it in a simple format that would be fine, but as Al

Re: email gripe

2015-07-08 Thread Mouse
Listen, if they want to track watch you, they're doing it already. Using text-only email won't help much; give it up. While I didn't write the text (which I cut) that the above quote is responding to, I too stick to text-only for security reasons - but not just because of the them watching and

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-08 Thread Mark J. Blair
On Jul 8, 2015, at 08:34, Toby Thain t...@telegraphics.com.au wrote: Plus I'm guessing (admittedly) that the Really Big VAX racks don't have castors either? The VAX-11/780 has casters. Back in college, a friend and I pushed a decommissioned 11/780 out of the computer room and into our

Re: email gripe

2015-07-08 Thread Sean Conner
It was thus said that the Great Dave Woyciesjes once stated: On 07/07/2015 09:06 PM, Sean Conner wrote: ...But I've tried using a GUI to check email and frankly, I found it too painful to use. It wasn't that the GUI was confusing or inconsistent, but that it was *way too slow*. Sluggish

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-08 Thread Toby Thain
On 2015-07-08 10:46 AM, Fred Cisin wrote: On Wed, 8 Jul 2015, Dave Wade wrote: Personally I think anything with castors on No. I have a PC server case from late 286 era with tiny casters. But, it was nice to be able to have more than 4 full-height drives. Plus I'm guessing

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-08 Thread Guy Sotomayor
On Jul 8, 2015, at 8:34 AM, Toby Thain t...@telegraphics.com.au wrote: On 2015-07-08 10:46 AM, Fred Cisin wrote: On Wed, 8 Jul 2015, Dave Wade wrote: Personally I think anything with castors on No. I have a PC server case from late 286 era with tiny casters. But, it was nice to be

Re: email gripe

2015-07-08 Thread Fred Cisin
Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you! :-) On Wed, 8 Jul 2015, Fred Cisin wrote: We had some difficulties with college administrators that resulted in, The question is not 'are you paranoid?'; the question is 'are you paranoid enough?' (There is no expectation of

RE: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-08 Thread Dave G4UGM
-Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Fred Cisin Sent: 08 July 2015 15:47 To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750) On Wed, 8 Jul 2015, Dave Wade wrote:

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-08 Thread Guy Dawson
Oh yes they did! And screw down feet. https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=VAX#/media/File:SPEC-1_VAX_05.jpg On 8 July 2015 at 16:34, Toby Thain t...@telegraphics.com.au wrote: On 2015-07-08 10:46 AM, Fred Cisin wrote: On Wed, 8 Jul 2015, Dave Wade wrote: Personally I think anything with

RE: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-08 Thread Dave G4UGM
-Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Toby Thain Sent: 08 July 2015 16:34 To: gene...@classiccmp.org; discuss...@classiccmp.org:On-Topic and Off- Topic Posts Subject: Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750) On 2015-07-08

OT Re: email gripe

2015-07-08 Thread Vincent Slyngstad
From: Dave Woyciesjes: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 7:17 AM Ahh, the sweet smell of paranoia... :) Listen, if they want to track watch you, they're doing it already. Using text-only email won't help much; give it up. Oh, they are out to get me, alright. They've admitted as much repeatedly.

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-08 Thread Guy Sotomayor
On 7/8/15 12:59 PM, Ethan Dicks wrote: On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Sean Caron sca...@umich.edu wrote: I love those server hoists... the data center that I work in at U-M has two of them, however they are made by Genie and they are a hand-crank type, no automatic lift. They easily turn a

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-08 Thread Alan Perry
On 7/6/15 8:17 PM, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove wrote: On 6 July 2015 at 23:03, Alan Perry ape...@snowmoose.com wrote: Is there any interest in starting a VAX-11/750 registry? I wouldn't mind knowing who else out there has one and where they are now. If you are interested, send me e-mail

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-08 Thread Ethan Dicks
On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Sean Caron sca...@umich.edu wrote: I love those server hoists... the data center that I work in at U-M has two of them, however they are made by Genie and they are a hand-crank type, no automatic lift. They easily turn a job that could require two, three or even

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-08 Thread Alan Perry
On 7/7/15 1:50 PM, tony duell wrote: BTW, is this list limited to machines that are in operable condition? I would include machines that were clearly restorable. OK, anything can be restored, but you know what I mean :-). In other words an 11/730 or 11/750 that needs its TU58 rollers

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-08 Thread Sean Caron
I've never meet a full-size rack that didn't have casters ... otherwise there'd be no way to move it around. :O There must have been? Of course, you'd put the feet down once the equipment is situated. Best, Sean On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Toby Thain t...@telegraphics.com.au wrote: On

FW: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-08 Thread Robert Armstrong
Perhaps SDI is a typo for SBI, as in the 11/780? Yeah, exactly. Sometimes the fingers are faster than the brain :-) Synchronous Backplane Interconnect - the system bus used on the 78x and some of the 8000 machines. Bob

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-08 Thread Alan Perry
On 7/7/15 4:35 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: On 2015-07-08 01:25, Antonio Carlini wrote: On 07/07/15 23:06, Johnny Billquist wrote: I honestly don't have a good idea of what defines a large VAX. Buses feels unsuitable. Power connector maybe? :-) If the intention is to avoid a huge list then

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-08 Thread Dave Wade
Personally I think anything with castors on On Jul 8, 2015 7:37 AM, P Gebhardt p.gebha...@ymail.com wrote: - Ursprüngliche Message - Von: Johnny Billquist b...@update.uu.se An: cct...@classiccmp.org CC: Gesendet: 23:02 Dienstag, 7.Juli 2015 Betreff: Re: VAX-11/750

OT: Re: email gripe

2015-07-08 Thread Vincent Slyngstad
From: jwsmobile: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 5:47 PM On 7/7/2015 4:18 PM, Vincent Slyngstad wrote: I might want to follow your link, if I have sufficient interest and trust, but I want to have to make that decision *before* entering the spy filled, all-singing, all-dancing hype arena. I agree

Re: Looking for SGI Onyx parts

2015-07-08 Thread Ian Finder
Awesome, mike. Will do. Thanks much. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 6, 2015, at 13:07, Mike Ross tmfdm...@gmail.com wrote: Poke me in a couple of weeks when I'm back home in NZ; I have an operational Onyx and a few spare boards... Mike On Jul 6, 2015 9:53 PM, Ian Finder ian.fin...@gmail.com

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-08 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2015-07-07 23:55, Robert Armstrong wrote: Johnny Billquist bqt at update.uu.se wrote: some of the 8000-series stuff are probably the biggest ... Not all of them. The 82xx/83xx family was just one 10-1/2 chassis for the CPU - the same physical size as a 11/730, yet they were genuine

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-08 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2015-07-07 23:30, Robert Armstrong wrote: P Gebhardt p.gebhardt at ymail.com wrote: wonder how the ratio of VAX 6000s and 7000s in enthusiasts' hands compared of VAX 11's in terms of numbers is? I guess that /780 and larger systems are rare, but I'd guess that there are some more /730 and

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-08 Thread Robert Armstrong
Johnny Billquist bqt at update.uu.se wrote: some of the 8000-series stuff are probably the biggest ... Not all of them. The 82xx/83xx family was just one 10-1/2 chassis for the CPU - the same physical size as a 11/730, yet they were genuine single or dual CPU BI bus VAXen. Of course, many of

SDK-86 Chess source code, anybody?

2015-07-08 Thread Randy Dawson
I have the docs and the ROM images from Nigel, but not the source. I did my share of googling, nothing but a piece or two, and not the whole thing. Anybody have this? Thanks, Randy

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-08 Thread Antonio Carlini
On 07/07/15 23:02, Johnny Billquist wrote: Right. But I did say some. :-) Think 8978 for example... Does that really count as a VAX? It was just a marketing name for cluster ... Antonio

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-08 Thread P Gebhardt
- Ursprüngliche Message - Von: Johnny Billquist b...@update.uu.se An: cct...@classiccmp.org CC: Gesendet: 23:02 Dienstag, 7.Juli 2015 Betreff: Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750) On 2015-07-07 23:55, Robert Armstrong wrote: Johnny Billquist bqt at update.uu.se

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-08 Thread Robert Armstrong
P Gebhardt p.gebhardt at ymail.com wrote: wonder how the ratio of VAX 6000s and 7000s in enthusiasts' hands compared of VAX 11's in terms of numbers is? I guess that /780 and larger systems are rare, but I'd guess that there are some more /730 and /750 around. No idea if my gut feeling

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-08 Thread Alan Perry
How many microvaxen were made? I think that would be a lot more work, wouldn't it? alan On 7/6/15 11:52 PM, couryho...@aol.com wrote: will this include micro vax also? Ed# In a message dated 7/6/2015 8:03:25 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, ape...@snowmoose.com writes: Is there