Re: OpenVMS Alpha V7.3

2015-07-17 Thread william degnan
related question - I was not able to make a bootable/readable image from the ISO I have 7.3, although it might have been a bad source. Is there a best way/ best software to make a usable 7.3 install CD that will work in an Alpha? Just curious as to why I was not able to make it work. I make

Re: OpenVMS Alpha V7.3

2015-07-17 Thread Richard Loken
On Thu, 16 Jul 2015, Sean Caron wrote: Anyone got an ISO handy? Trying to get my 3000/400 up; V7.0 firmware; and it does not like the OpenVMS V8.4 ISOs I got from HP ... I do have a valid Hobbyist license ... please chat with me off-list? I have a 7.2 CDrom and a 7.3-1 CDrom that I can send

Front Panels Sample layout.

2015-07-17 Thread Rod Smallwood
Hi Guys! Further to my previous email. If anybody would like to see the artwork I can send you a copy. Its in *.svg format. Regards Rod

PDP8/e front panels A and B

2015-07-17 Thread Rod Smallwood
Hi Guys! I now have prototype artwork for the two types of 8/e front panel. They differ only in the switch markings. They do both have the same extra (but cosmetic only) features over the first run. Regards Rod

Re: Reproducing old machines with newer technology

2015-07-17 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 07/16/2015 11:45 AM, Mike Stein wrote: Not the same thing of course but remotely on-topic, and I never miss an opportunity to put in a plug for Cromemco: By comparison, Cromemco used semi-autonomous 4MHz Z80A SBCs for their I/O processors, with 16KB of local RAM and up to 32KB of ROM;

Re: OpenVMS Alpha V7.3

2015-07-17 Thread John Willis
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 7:53 AM, william degnan billdeg...@gmail.com wrote: related question - I was not able to make a bootable/readable image from the ISO I have 7.3, although it might have been a bad source. Is there a best way/ best software to make a usable 7.3 install CD that will work

Re: OpenVMS Alpha V7.3

2015-07-17 Thread Sean Caron
Thanks, Richard! I'll try some of the ISOs I received and failing that I might take you up on your offer. I'm going to get this box running VMS one way or the other :O Best, Sean On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 11:25 AM, Richard Loken richar...@admin.athabascau.ca wrote: On Thu, 16 Jul 2015, Sean

Re: OpenVMS Alpha V7.3

2015-07-17 Thread Ian S. King
Sector size? On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 8:25 AM, Richard Loken richar...@admin.athabascau.ca wrote: On Thu, 16 Jul 2015, Sean Caron wrote: Anyone got an ISO handy? Trying to get my 3000/400 up; V7.0 firmware; and it does not like the OpenVMS V8.4 ISOs I got from HP ... I do have a valid

Re: OpenVMS Alpha V7.3

2015-07-17 Thread Sean Caron
I've got a few to try so I'll burn those today and see what happens. For the 8.4 disc I have, I used the same process to burn the disc that I did for OpenVMS VAX V7.3 ... I just copied the *.iso to a Mac and used Disk Utility to burn the *.iso just to a regular CD-R. For V7.3 VAX this produced a

Re: OpenVMS Alpha V7.3

2015-07-17 Thread Sean Caron
I'm all set; thanks to all that responded! I've got a few different *.isos to try and hopefully one of them will be palatable to my old 3000/400 ... I'd rather run VMS on it than Tru64 :O I truly appreciate it! Best, Sean On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 7:19 PM, Sean Caron sca...@umich.edu wrote:

Re: OpenVMS Alpha V7.3

2015-07-17 Thread william degnan
thanks for the info. The Alpha in question is a 2100 4/275. It works enough to connect to the web but I need to fix one of the drives. On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 12:22 PM, John Willis chocolatejolli...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 7:53 AM, william degnan billdeg...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: PDP 11 gear finally moved

2015-07-17 Thread Mouse
I do find this witch-hunt against capacitors to be curious, given how few I've found to have failed. I suspect a lot of it comes from audiophools who think this is the way to fix anything... Perhaps. But not all of it, certainly. I'm currently four for four fixing dead flatscreens by

Re: PDP 11 gear finally moved

2015-07-17 Thread wulfman
some are good some are bad. http://www.badcaps.net/ here is all the info you ever need on today's bad caps not so much on yesteryears bad caps On 7/17/2015 11:53 AM, Mouse wrote: I do find this witch-hunt against capacitors to be curious, given how few I've found to have failed. I

Re: PDP 11 gear finally moved

2015-07-17 Thread Todd Killingsworth
I suspect part of the swap'em ALL out mentality comes from the 90's when some botched industrial espionage had some of the bottom-tier cap manufacturers using a dodgy electrolytic formula for their caps. These caps would have a frequent failure rate.. While not an issue for pre-90's electronics,

PDP 11 gear finally moved

2015-07-17 Thread devin davison
Devin here, I had asked for advice on how to move a PDP 11 as well as how to lock the heads on the RL Drives. It was quite a move. Ive never driven in a large city before, dealing with traffic was more trouble than it was to move and load up the equipment. Anyhow, i put a few images of what I got

Re: OpenVMS Alpha V7.3

2015-07-17 Thread Sean Caron
I'm using a genuine DEC RRD45 so no sector size issue and it's worked fine with burned CDs in the past to load my VAX machines ... I've never had too much trouble with burns ... I think I just got a funky image from HP ... other people have reported issues with it ... I could see the RRD45 getting

RE: PDP 11 gear finally moved

2015-07-17 Thread tony duell
It is generally a good idea to re-form electrolytic capacitors in power supplies, and to bench check the power supplies (under some kind of load) before actually applying power to the whole unit. It is always a good idea to replace electrolytic capacitors in power supplies. Could you,

Re: PDP 11 gear finally moved

2015-07-17 Thread Jay Jaeger
It is generally a good idea to re-form electrolytic capacitors in power supplies, and to bench check the power supplies (under some kind of load) before actually applying power to the whole unit. JRJ On 7/17/2015 11:49 AM, devin davison wrote: Devin here, I had asked for advice on how to move a

RE: PDP 11 gear finally moved

2015-07-17 Thread tony duell
It is generally a good idea to re-form electrolytic capacitors in power supplies, and to bench check the power supplies (under some kind of load) before actually applying power to the whole unit. I am not sure either would have done much good here. The OP said it ran OK for an hour or so,

RE: PDP 11 gear finally moved

2015-07-17 Thread Rich Alderson
It is generally a good idea to re-form electrolytic capacitors in power supplies, and to bench check the power supplies (under some kind of load) before actually applying power to the whole unit. It is always a good idea to replace electrolytic capacitors in power supplies. The rest of the

RE: PDP 11 gear finally moved

2015-07-17 Thread tony duell
I was trying to enter a short program at the front panel and there was a clicking sound followed by a burning smell. I cut the power, the front panel is unresponsive now, so I'm going to need to look over the power Did you see anything on the panel when it died (was the numeric display still

Re: PDP 11 gear finally moved

2015-07-17 Thread Brent Hilpert
On 2015-Jul-17, at 11:42 AM, tony duell wrote: It is generally a good idea to re-form electrolytic capacitors in power supplies, and to bench check the power supplies (under some kind of load) before actually applying power to the whole unit. It is always a good idea to replace electrolytic

Re: PDP 11 gear finally moved

2015-07-17 Thread Jay Jaeger
That might be a little different -- much more recent - presumably in the ear of flat screens and PCs where there have been times when manufacturers got fed bad capacitors for their boards - which then failed later. IBM replaced a whole series of motherboards in one organization that I worked at

Re: PDP 11 gear finally moved

2015-07-17 Thread Jay Jaeger
I tend to agree with your hunch. On 7/17/2015 1:55 PM, Todd Killingsworth wrote: I suspect part of the swap'em ALL out mentality comes from the 90's when some botched industrial espionage had some of the bottom-tier cap manufacturers using a dodgy electrolytic formula for their caps. These

Re: MC68451 datasheet wanted

2015-07-17 Thread Al Kossow
I have it. I'll postprocess and upload it and email you the pinout page On 7/17/15 4:03 PM, Eric Smith wrote: Looking for an MC68451 datasheet (or scan). Most of the ones that turn up from the usual database sites are actually for the MC68450 DMA controller, which is entirely unrelated. The

Re: PDP 11 gear finally moved

2015-07-17 Thread devin davison
Thank you for the detailed information. I need to figure out how im going to get it out of the rack and moved to a place where i can test it over the next couple days where it will not be in the way. Ill find some way to do a dummy load and do an extended test to be sure the supply is working

Re: PDP 11 gear finally moved

2015-07-17 Thread devin davison
I was operating the panel when i first got it, now the numbers do not light up, panel is unresponsive, and run light stays lit.(just describing the behavior, i will not start it back up till I work on the power supply) On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 3:50 PM, devin davison lyokob...@gmail.com wrote: I

Re: MC68451 datasheet wanted

2015-07-17 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 07/17/2015 04:03 PM, Eric Smith wrote: Looking for an MC68451 datasheet (or scan). Most of the ones that turn up from the usual database sites are actually for the MC68450 DMA controller, which is entirely unrelated. The only one I found that is actually for the MC68451 was Advance

Re: PDP 11 gear finally moved

2015-07-17 Thread John Robertson
On 07/17/2015 11:53 AM, Mouse wrote: I do find this witch-hunt against capacitors to be curious, given how few I've found to have failed. I suspect a lot of it comes from audiophools who think this is the way to fix anything... Perhaps. But not all of it, certainly. I'm currently four for

MC68451 datasheet wanted

2015-07-17 Thread Eric Smith
Looking for an MC68451 datasheet (or scan). Most of the ones that turn up from the usual database sites are actually for the MC68450 DMA controller, which is entirely unrelated. The only one I found that is actually for the MC68451 was Advance Information from a databook, and did not include the

Re: PDP 11 gear finally moved

2015-07-17 Thread Jay Jaeger
U - his PDP-11/34 most certainly does use switching power regulators. ;) On 7/17/2015 4:06 PM, John Robertson wrote: On 07/17/2015 11:53 AM, Mouse wrote: I do find this witch-hunt against capacitors to be curious, given how few I've found to have failed. I suspect a lot of it comes from

Re: Front Panels Sample layout.

2015-07-17 Thread Adrian Stoness
Sure On Friday, July 17, 2015, Rod Smallwood rodsmallwoo...@btinternet.com wrote: Hi Guys! Further to my previous email. If anybody would like to see the artwork I can send you a copy. Its in *.svg format. Regards Rod

RE: PDP 11 gear finally moved

2015-07-17 Thread Robert Jarratt
-Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of tony duell Sent: 17 July 2015 20:23 To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: RE: PDP 11 gear finally moved When I repaired my VT100s I had to replace all the electrolytic

Re: PDP 11 gear finally moved

2015-07-17 Thread Jay Jaeger
Replace - no, I don't agree - especially not for those of us who don't have the kind of budget that your organization has. In my experience, for equipment of this quality and vintage, 95% or more of the time an hour to a few hours of re-forming is all that is necessary - and as Tony has pointed