OT RE: Saved DEC kit

2015-08-05 Thread Jay West
Tony wrote (re: 25kg)... Its about half the weight of many minicomputer bits (I think an RK05 drive is about 50kg for example). I cry DEC-bias, using an RK05 as your UOM ;) For HP, a bare 7906 drive is 75kg (165#), and with controller, power supply, and desk side rack that only holds th

Re: Saved DEC kit

2015-08-05 Thread Adrian Graham
On 05/08/2015 19:10, "tony duell" wrote: >> Surprisingly none of my weightlifting mates can muster 25kg. I like the idea > > I doesn't have to be one mass, does it? Couldn't you pile up 5 off 5kg > weights? Nope, biggest mass was 20kg. You'd also think that with a warehouse full of Proliants an

Re: Saved DEC kit

2015-08-05 Thread Tapley, Mark
On Aug 5, 2015, at 1:26 PM, tony duell wrote: (Fred wrote) >> ...And pluto is no longer a planet. Give us (New Horizons team) a couple years on that. I’ll guess that even the IAU is going to realize the error of their ways by the time all is said and done. > No, he's a dog (could not resist)

RE: Saved DEC kit

2015-08-05 Thread tony duell
> > > Those are "imperial pints", in the US a pint is 16 fluid onces so nearer to > > 464 (I think) grams... > > "A pint is a pound, the world around." is no longer true. Not just the Over here we (used to) say 'A pint of water weighs a pound and a quarter' > price of beer not being a pound pe

RE: Saved DEC kit

2015-08-05 Thread Fred Cisin
Hmm.. 55 pints? In the UK, the pint (as used, I assume for beer) is 568ml. So assuming that 'pint' means the drink commonly called that over here and assuming beer has a density similar to water [1] then 44 pints is very close. On Wed, 5 Aug 2015, Dave G4UGM wrote: Those are "imperial pints

RE: Saved DEC kit

2015-08-05 Thread tony duell
> Those are "imperial pints", in the US a pint is 16 fluid onces so nearer to > 464 (I think) grams... Sure, I've got it as 473ml or so. But the OP was from the UK, so presumbly uses imperial pints. -tony

RE: Saved DEC kit

2015-08-05 Thread tony duell
> Surprisingly none of my weightlifting mates can muster 25kg. I like the idea I doesn't have to be one mass, does it? Couldn't you pile up 5 off 5kg weights? > of a 25kg bag of dog food though, I know somone who works at a pet food > supplier... Cement is often sold in 25kg bags now. At one tim

Re: Saved DEC kit

2015-08-05 Thread Adrian Graham
On 05/08/2015 18:43, "tony duell" wrote: > More seriously, and ignoring things like '25 bags of sugar', what about the > sort of weights used by > those misguided people who do not get their exercise from lifting PDP's into > racks? Surprisingly none of my weightlifting mates can muster 25kg. I

RE: Unidentified chip

2015-08-05 Thread tony duell
> > As a total aside, on some HP boards there is a 16 pin DIL package with the > > part number 1260-0339. > > Any ideas what that chip is? > Is it on any boards related to the HP1000 or 21MX computers? If so... what > board? I doubt it, but it might me. I first came across it on the test board fo

RE: Unidentified chip

2015-08-05 Thread Jay West
Tony wrote... - As a total aside, on some HP boards there is a 16 pin DIL package with the part number 1260-0339. Any ideas what that chip is? - Is it on any boards related to the HP1000 or 21MX computers? If so... what board? J

RE: Unidentified chip

2015-08-05 Thread tony duell
> > This all assumes it is a TTL and not an ECL or even > and analog chip, such as an opamp. Or a resistor network, diode network, transistor array, programmed PROM, microcontroller, etc, etc, etc. As a total aside, on some HP boards there is a 16 pin DIL package with the part number 1260-033

RE: Saved DEC kit

2015-08-05 Thread Dave G4UGM
Those are "imperial pints", in the US a pint is 16 fluid onces so nearer to 464 (I think) grams... > -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of tony duell > Sent: 05 August 2015 18:43 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > > Sub

RE: Saved DEC kit

2015-08-05 Thread tony duell
> Hmm…. 55 pints? In the UK, the pint (as used, I assume for beer) is 568ml. So assuming that 'pint' means the drink commonly called that over here and assuming beer has a density similar to water [1] then 44 pints is very close. [1] No jokes about making love in a canoe, please. More serious

VT340, VT340+, and other monitor repairs

2015-08-05 Thread Paul Anderson
Anyone interested in repairing some monitors in exchange for DEC gear or possible cash? sorry, US only because of shipping. Please contact me off list if you are interested. Thanks, Paul

Re: Booting an IBM MP 3000 S/390 System

2015-08-05 Thread Lee Courtney
Oh that is awesome. Lee C. On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 11:20 PM, Guy Sotomayor wrote: > I spent some time today and made a video of my MP 3000 system booting up > to z/OS. The video is here: http://youtu.be/WnJmeQR0GQU. > > Even though the video is about 9-1/2 minutes long, it takes longer than > t

RE: Booting an IBM MP 3000 S/390 System

2015-08-05 Thread Jay West
Guy; That's just plain awesome :) J

Re: Was there 3rd party DEC PRO CTI boards?

2015-08-05 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2015-08-05 10:51, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: On Wed, Aug 05, 2015 at 10:42:10AM +0200, Johnny Billquist wrote: On 2015-08-05 07:53, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: Hi Out of curiousity, since I now have a DEC PRO380. Was there any third party manufacturer of CTI expansion boards? Yes, there were some

Re: Was there 3rd party DEC PRO CTI boards?

2015-08-05 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Wed, Aug 05, 2015 at 10:42:10AM +0200, Johnny Billquist wrote: > On 2015-08-05 07:53, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: > >Hi > > > >Out of curiousity, since I now have a DEC PRO380. Was there any third > >party manufacturer of CTI expansion boards? > > Yes, there were some other companies that did some b

Re: Was there 3rd party DEC PRO CTI boards?

2015-08-05 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2015-08-05 07:53, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: Hi Out of curiousity, since I now have a DEC PRO380. Was there any third party manufacturer of CTI expansion boards? Yes, there were some other companies that did some boards for the PRO. Never seen any in the wild, though. But I have some DEC handb

Re: Pertec Tape Drive Interface Musings

2015-08-05 Thread Marc Verdiell
>If you're willing to run MSDOS with an appropriate ASPI driver, >I can send you a utility that I know works []You're >welcome to the source code. >--Chuck Chuck, Could you share your DOS code with me too? I just assembled the hardware for that: a self loading HP88780B SCSI-1 9-track Tape Driv