Re: Classic programming

2015-08-08 Thread Peter Coghlan
On Fri, 07 Aug 2015 at 18:11:09 -0400, Sean Conner s...@conman.org wrote: But I'm also interested in older software as well. One of my when I get around to it projects is playing with the Viola web browser [4]. Written in the early 90s, it *barely* compiles on a 32-bit Unix system and

Re: VAX4000/300 MNS7.3 isntallation from CDROM

2015-08-08 Thread Peter Coghlan
On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 at 08:21:07 +0200, Holm Tiffe h...@freibergnet.de wrote: I'm starting the image restore and now I have a problem that the DSSI disks are not software enabled. I'm not sure but I think I recall getting that error when trying to mount a disk that had media problems :-( It

Re: VAX4000/300 MNS7.3 isntallation from CDROM

2015-08-08 Thread Jerry Weiss
If the saveset restoration and the complex bootstrap both fail, suggest you investigate the following. 1) Make sure the SCSI bus that is used by the CD-ROM has proper termination and termination power. 2) Create/obtain a new image CD. Your image may be corruption or the CD-ROM may have

Re: VAX4000/300 MNS7.3 isntallation from CDROM

2015-08-08 Thread Holm Tiffe
Holm Tiffe wrote: Peter Coghlan wrote: On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 at 08:21:07 +0200, Holm Tiffe h...@freibergnet.de wrote: I'm starting the image restore and now I have a problem that the DSSI disks are not software enabled. I'm not sure but I think I recall getting that

Re: VAX4000/300 MNS7.3 isntallation from CDROM

2015-08-08 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2015-08-08 12:00, Holm Tiffe wrote: Peter Coghlan wrote: On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 at 08:21:07 +0200, Holm Tiffe h...@freibergnet.de wrote: I'm starting the image restore and now I have a problem that the DSSI disks are not software enabled. I'm not sure but I think I recall getting that

Re: ISA Pertec controllers available

2015-08-08 Thread Tom Moss
On 8 August 2015 at 05:35, Chuck Guzis ccl...@sydex.com wrote: I recall that some years ago, I spoke with a fellow from Chi Corp, who barely remembered the thing. (Chi did not make them--they were done by a Canadian outfit). He did warn that the cards are somewhat sensitive to CPU speed,

Re: VAX4000/300 MNS7.3 isntallation from CDROM

2015-08-08 Thread Holm Tiffe
Johnny Billquist wrote: [..]i Now I'll be snarky, but just for a single paragraph, Holm... :-) Did you ever actually read the full ISE Users Guide manual? Check page 3-7 to 3-12. There you actually have the manual talk about both the software write protect and the hardware write protect.

Re: VAX4000/300 MNS7.3 isntallation from CDROM

2015-08-08 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2015-08-08 13:50, Holm Tiffe wrote: Johnny Billquist wrote: [..]i Now I'll be snarky, but just for a single paragraph, Holm... :-) Did you ever actually read the full ISE Users Guide manual? Check page 3-7 to 3-12. There you actually have the manual talk about both the software write

Re: Classic programming

2015-08-08 Thread Noel Chiappa
From: Kip Koon I have often wondered what the inspiration for the C Language was. BCPL - MCPL - B - c, quite an interesting list of languages. I don't think MCPL is in there; B was directly inspired by BCPL. See Dennis M. Ritchie, The Development of the C Language:

RE: Classic programming

2015-08-08 Thread Brian L. Stuart
On Sat, 8/8/15, Kip Koon computer...@sc.rr.com wrote: I have often wondered what the inspiration for the C Language was.  BCPL - MCPL - B - c, quite an interesting list of languages. Kip, As Noel mentioned, MCPL wasn't part of the evolution; it actually is pretty recent compared to the other

Re: Classic programming

2015-08-08 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 08/08/2015 08:44 AM, Jay Jaeger wrote: If you like to play with classics like SNOBOL in their original form, then you can run SNOBOL and SPITBOL under the Hercules IBM mainframe emulator. https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/hercules-390/files/SNOBOL4/ http://www.snobol4.com/spitbol360/

Re: Classic programming

2015-08-08 Thread Sean Caron
Hi Phil, I checked out your SNOBOL4 page and I just wanted to note for your list of historical platforms that SNOBOL4 and SPITBOL were also implemented on the Michigan Terminal System (MTS) on S/360 ... this is actually the incarnation I've been playing with recently ... along with numerous other

Re: VAX4000/300 MNS7.3 isntallation from CDROM

2015-08-08 Thread Holm Tiffe
Antonio Carlini wrote: On 08/08/15 12:50, Holm Tiffe wrote: No the thing is that I know almost nothing about VMS (and RSX11), I'm a unix guy as you know. P Have you an VMS mount command handy that I should try? Regards, Holm It sounds like you have VMS installed on one disk and at

Re: OT: Slow booting, was re: Booting an IBM MP 3000 S/390 System

2015-08-08 Thread Ken Seefried
Supermicros (and to a similar degree Tyan) are mostly in the server class of motherboards. That apparently means they put a *lot* of self-test code in there somewhere. I've had literally thousands of Supermicro machines of a dozen different types at various times, and they all took an inordinate

Re: VAX4000/300 MNS7.3 isntallation from CDROM

2015-08-08 Thread Peter Coghlan
Holm Tiffe wrote: It seems that the disk has some problems, or better the two RF31 disks. If I try to install VMS on the disks there is some ratteling and data where copied to them, after a while I get those infamous volume is not software enabled errors. There are no problems detected from

Re: Classic programming

2015-08-08 Thread Mike Stein
I think I've got a 68HC11 development kit somewhere if you're interested; I'll dig for it and contact you privately if I find it. m On 8/8/15, Kip Koon computer...@sc.rr.com wrote: Hi Noel, Thank you for correcting me. I was quite sleepy when I first read the original email and missed the

Re: Classic programming

2015-08-08 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 08/08/2015 12:13 PM, Jay Jaeger wrote: I have always felt that the language name is SNOBOL, with multiple versions, kind of like FORTRAN II (which is what the 1410 had), FORTRAN IV, FORTRAN V, etc., but Griswold seems to think otherwise. ;) I think the test would be Can language x+1 run,

RE: Classic programming

2015-08-08 Thread Kip Koon
Hi Mike, Thanks a bunch for the offer! That would be great! I appreciate it. Kip Koon computer...@sc.rr.com http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/index.php/Kip_Koon -Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Mike Stein Sent: Saturday, August 08,

Re: OT: Slow booting, was re: Booting an IBM MP 3000 S/390 System

2015-08-08 Thread Mark Linimon
It probably is not this, but maybe you can try it. For a while HP servers had the extremely annoying property of the boot being rate-limited by the serial console speed if you had been unfortunate enough to enable it by default. You would not notice anything other than the slowness on a video

Re: Classic programming

2015-08-08 Thread Jay Jaeger
On 8/8/2015 5:47 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: On 08/08/2015 12:13 PM, Jay Jaeger wrote: I have always felt that the language name is SNOBOL, with multiple versions, kind of like FORTRAN II (which is what the 1410 had), FORTRAN IV, FORTRAN V, etc., but Griswold seems to think otherwise. ;) I

Re: SCSI Tape to TAP utility

2015-08-08 Thread Jay Jaeger
If anyone is interested, I have code for a Linux SCSI tape to AWSTAPE program, and a program that translates aws format to a raw byte stream. Not sure if I have one that translates to the SimH .tap format, though. GNU C. JRJ On 8/8/2015 7:57 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: A couple of weeks ago, I

Re: OT: Slow booting,

2015-08-08 Thread Fred Cisin
Did you say that the slow boot problem that you were having was a machine with ISA? Would it make sense to put in a POST card, and make a new [temporary] BIOS with its POST peppered with OUTs? Just seeing any output that would let you know WHERE in the process it was getting bogged down

Re: SCSI Tape to TAP utility

2015-08-08 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 08/08/2015 08:14 PM, Jay Jaeger wrote: If anyone is interested, I have code for a Linux SCSI tape to AWSTAPE program, and a program that translates aws format to a raw byte stream. Not sure if I have one that translates to the SimH .tap format, though. GNU C. I've got a Linux utility to