Re: A tale of woe, including carelessness, stupidity and laziness....

2015-08-25 Thread jwsmobile
Dec quad high boards had metal extractor handles which were possibly attached to metal rails, and if the wiring was wrong, could deliver a shock. Microdata card extractors were always engaged to a rail that was metal, and in one site I was at, there was a CE sized hole in the wall behind a sys

Re: A tale of woe, including carelessness, stupidity and laziness....

2015-08-25 Thread Jarratt RMA
As a child I remember getting a shock from a fridge and being "thrown" across the room into the wall opposite. I really did crash into the wall quite hard, so I can imagine it being very easy for the shock to cause other injuries. Regards Rob On 26/08/2015, tony duell wrote: >> Remember that mo

RE: A tale of woe, including carelessness, stupidity and laziness....

2015-08-25 Thread tony duell
> Remember that most injuries associated with electric shock are secondary - > that is, the real damage often occurs when the individual recoils from the > shock, jamming their hands into even worse places in the equipment - like > rotating assemblies. And then there's the innocent guy behind you,

Re: Applikon Workstation?

2015-08-25 Thread Sean Caron
The name sounds familiar ... not sure why ... it turns out they had their main offices here in Ann Arbor, MI at some point, as an aside. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Applicon Best, Sean On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 5:02 PM, Holm Tiffe wrote: > In the nineties I've workes as electronican and syst

Re: SA-800/801 saga continues / schematic request

2015-08-25 Thread Jay Jaeger
On 8/24/2015 8:21 PM, Jay Jaeger wrote: > On 8/23/2015 9:39 PM, Jay Jaeger wrote: > >> >> When I connect up drive "X", the +24V series pass transistor gets very >> warm and the +24V drops to around +8.5V (regardless of whether or not >> the stepper motor leads are connected). On the circuit boa

John @ CPUShack?

2015-08-25 Thread drlegendre .
Wonder if anyone here has ever dealt with John Culver, who works from the address j...@cpushack.com? He operates a site at the same URL. Among other things, he's a buyer, seller & collector of vintage CPUs, and associated chips. I've done several deals with him, with goods & money moving both dire

Re: A tale of woe, including carelessness, stupidity and laziness....

2015-08-25 Thread drlegendre .
Whether low-impedance voltage sources are present, or not, you should +never+ wear any kind of hand / wrist jewelry when working with moving parts. Ditto for neck chains and long hair, that isn't securely tied back. Seems like First Grade instruction for the tech, but accidents still happen.. ever

RT-11 on a PDP-11/10

2015-08-25 Thread Johnny Billquist
Hi all. Update have an 11/10, that was recently powered on again for the first time in I don't know when. After some fiddling with the RX01 disks, we put an RL11 and an RL02 on it. Lots of space, I know. :-) Also, we have RT-11 running on it. And for fun, we wanted to run the original Tetris. Bu

Nuts and Volts and other magazines (Re: ColourPET)

2015-08-25 Thread Jay Jaeger
On 8/25/2015 12:45 PM, Sean Caron wrote: > Nuts and Volts is a neat little magazine ... I had a subscription for a > while back when I was in high school ... I ought to re-up one of these days. > > Best, > > Sean It is worth subscribing for a full year -- you get access to back issues. Absolute

Many Manuals - Also Boxes of Fan Fold Paper

2015-08-25 Thread Jerome H. Fine
Since the topic of hard copy manuals is at least on a few minds, I thought I would mention that I have at least 20 feet of mostly DEC PDP-11 related manuals which will have to be tossed if a home can't be found. While I estimate that at least 90% of the DEC manuals are on bitsavers, some individ

Applikon Workstation?

2015-08-25 Thread Holm Tiffe
In the nineties I've workes as electronican and system administrator at the institue of geophyics at our local University of Mining and Technology here in Freiberg Germany. Some day I've got a call from Motorola in Munich, they wanted to get rid of some old computers and asked if we had some use fo

Re: So, what's the deal with DigiBarn?

2015-08-25 Thread Ian S. King
On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 6:45 AM, dwight wrote: > Being a hobby project, Bruce gets distracted by earning > money and working on other projects. > The barn is not the best place for things as things get dusty. > Most things are in visible storage. Things could use cataloging. > I'm sure Bruce woul

Re: Altair BASIC copyright [was RE: Larry Niven's Altair]

2015-08-25 Thread Kelly Leavitt
From: cctalk on behalf of couryho...@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 2:45 PM >But would you REALLY even want to spend the amount > of money to argue this with the lawyers of Gates and Allen? Argue pro se for a while at least. You don't always have to have a lawyer. Where's the

RE: Osborne O1 Keyboard issues

2015-08-25 Thread tony duell
> > I'll admit to being surprised at the cheapness of the keyboard. Here I > expected to find a true mechanical type, like the early IBM machines - what > I found is a step-down from the C-64. Depends one what you mean by 'early IBM machine'. The well-known type M used on the 5170 PC/AT [1] is of

Re: Altair BASIC copyright [was RE: Larry Niven's Altair]

2015-08-25 Thread COURYHOUSE
Looks like the big "C" to me! I have no idea about the Davidoff guy... But would you REALLY even want to spend the amount of money to argue this with the lawyers of Gates and Allen? Ed# , and 00380 00400- -- - --- - 00420COPYRI

Re: ColourPET

2015-08-25 Thread Eric Christopherson
On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Eric Christopherson wrote: > The specific project in the magazine allows four 16 > foreground and 16 background colors per pixel, Sorry -- of course I meant "allows for 16 foreground and 16 background colors per character". The display is still only text. --

Altair BASIC copyright [was RE: Larry Niven's Altair]

2015-08-25 Thread Rich Alderson
From: Paul Koning Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 7:48 AM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Larry Niven's Altair > On Aug 20, 2015, at 10:30 AM, Jay Jaeger wrote: >> On 8/20/2015 3:32 AM, Randy Dawson wrote: >>> I assume all the 8K, 4K BASICs are in public domain

Re: A tale of woe, including carelessness, stupidity and laziness....

2015-08-25 Thread Eric Smith
On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 3:35 PM, Jay Jaeger wrote: > On 8/22/2015 4:11 PM, Eric Smith wrote: >> In my mostly misspent youth, I once had the opportunity to visit a >> facility where a now obscure supercomputer was developed. The product >> manager was showing me around. > > That wasn't Astro

Re: Osborne O1 Keyboard issues

2015-08-25 Thread drlegendre .
I'll admit to being surprised at the cheapness of the keyboard. Here I expected to find a true mechanical type, like the early IBM machines - what I found is a step-down from the C-64. The switching side is what I'd term a 'membrane sandwich. There are three layers in the stack, with upper & lower

Re: ColourPET

2015-08-25 Thread Sean Caron
Nuts and Volts is a neat little magazine ... I had a subscription for a while back when I was in high school ... I ought to re-up one of these days. Best, Sean On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Eric Christopherson < echristopher...@gmail.com> wrote: > I just noticed the September 2015 issue of

ColourPET

2015-08-25 Thread Eric Christopherson
I just noticed the September 2015 issue of Nuts & Volts has, right on its cover, a project to outfit a Commodore PET with color (digital RGBI) output. It requires a PET with the Universal Dynamic PET motherboard, the one that could be switched between 40 and 80 columns via jumpers; the actual outpu

Naval COBOL Audit tests

2015-08-25 Thread Chuck Guzis
Well, so much for catalog listings. One can only wonder about other government documents--this was an important one historically. I am not surprised. NTIS's response: Dear Sir, I have checked our databases and we no longer have this item available. Thank you, Mary Brisbois Customer Con

Re: Side issue Bevatron PDP-8 Classic & teletype control? and great print/scan cheap

2015-08-25 Thread Jon Elson
On 08/25/2015 12:31 AM, couryho...@aol.com wrote: Any Northern Calif folk (current or Ex) that might have been around the BEVATRON - Okthis thing had pdp-8 computers ( the classic first model rack mounted) and teletypes hooked to it I used to go out to do experi

RE: So, what's the deal with DigiBarn?

2015-08-25 Thread dwight
Being a hobby project, Bruce gets distracted by earning money and working on other projects. The barn is not the best place for things as things get dusty. Most things are in visible storage. Things could use cataloging. I'm sure Bruce would love to have volunteers to help keep things in order. It

Re: So, what's the deal with DigiBarn?

2015-08-25 Thread william degnan
I have been there before, Bruce gave a tour of the museum. Worth the visit when it's open if you get the chance. The items are not powered on and generally speaking items are on picnic tables with red/white tablecloths. There is also a bus called "Further" on the property and a pg pen. It's kind

Re: FYI gmane cctalk group

2015-08-25 Thread Paul Koning
> On Aug 25, 2015, at 3:45 AM, jwsmobile wrote: > > Archive.org was supposed to host these, so the archival is good w/o gmane. > > However in googleing and verifying about that, I ran across something called > archive-org.com which is hosted by a "private" registration of some sort, so > I do

Re: Osborne O1 Keyboard issues

2015-08-25 Thread Jules Richardson
On 08/24/2015 09:13 PM, drlegendre . wrote: On the bright side, I may be able to send you some bootable media, if you still need it. Thanks for the offer, but I definitely have it somewhere - I'm just not sure where! Eventually I'll have the PC set up to write images again anyway (I'm just re

Front Panel Progress - 8/e (type A & B) e/f and 8/m Update

2015-08-25 Thread Rod Smallwood
Hi Guys! I now have the (hopefully) final artwork for all four PDP-8 front panel variations. I have made up a display file. The file shows the combined black positive master for white lines, white text and logos for all four designs. There can be up to five layers and hence screens

Re: FYI gmane cctalk group

2015-08-25 Thread Christian Corti
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015, jwsmobile wrote: Also injecting the list into the usenet mess violates any rights the authors here have in who reads the discussion. Of course who can chime in is controlled, but I'm just paranoid enough I'd not like to have all this firing off into all the usenet crevass

Re: FYI gmane cctalk group

2015-08-25 Thread Christian Corti
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015, Doug Jackson wrote: This about screen pretty much sums it up. http://gmane.org/about.php [...] Severalmailing list archives exist, but these are all hidden under a web interface. Reading mail that way is not convenient. Reading mail as if it we

Re: FYI gmane cctalk group

2015-08-25 Thread jwsmobile
Archive.org was supposed to host these, so the archival is good w/o gmane. However in googleing and verifying about that, I ran across something called archive-org.com which is hosted by a "private" registration of some sort, so I don't know if it has a damn thing to do with archive.org or not