RE: 21MX proms (per request

2015-09-09 Thread Jay West
Glen wrote... Just in case anyone is looking at BP Microsystems programmers: I'm looking - heck, at that price, a good backup/insurance policy! Would love to see a full device list J

Re: 21MX proms (per request

2015-09-09 Thread Glen Slick
On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Jay West wrote: > > Another good example - the CP-1128 appears to require a usb attached computer > to function. Just in case anyone is looking at BP Microsystems programmers: As far as I know only their first programmer the EP-1 had a RS-232 interface. After tha

Re: 21MX proms (per request

2015-09-09 Thread Glen Slick
On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 1:20 PM, Jay Jaeger wrote: > > Anybody know if the CP-1128 supports any of the older EProms (2708, 2716 > or 1702)? I couldn't find a device list online. > > JRJ As far as I know no BP Microsystems programmers supported 1702 or 2708 EPROMs. The last version of the program

RE: Re: 21MX proms (per request)

2015-09-09 Thread Jay West
Marc wrote But I want to keep my machine original and vintage if I reasonably can. My programmer [snip] fits perfectly in my collection of higher end, historically meaningful engineering tools. Agreed. I was the same way when selecting a logic analyzer. Given my penchant for a certai

RE: 21MX proms (per request

2015-09-09 Thread Jay West
Sean wrote... -- my bench is all Racal, Tek, HP, Fluke, etc and the -- You must be one of those high net worth folks you mentioned in your previous post, I'm jealous of that kind of bench gear! I'm not saying the CP-1128 isn't a great value. Of course it's a good solution! I am merely

RE: Re: 21MX proms (per request)

2015-09-09 Thread Marc Verdiell
Absolutely (assuming you count your engineering time as free), not to mention it feels rewarding to use clever engineering tricks to solve a problem instead of money. But I want to keep my machine original and vintage if I reasonably can. My programmer ended up very reasonably priced, and it is rec

Re: Control Data 160

2015-09-09 Thread Billy Pettit
William Degan wrote: Comparing the 160 and 160-A manuals with the 160 in the ebay auction (252070822992) Page 37 of the 160 manual from 1960 - smaller "160" marquee sign. Page 3-1 of the 160-A marquee says "CONTROL DATA 160-A" Ebay auction says "CONTROL DATA 160" So, there were two variations o

Re: 21MX proms (per request

2015-09-09 Thread Jay Jaeger
On 9/8/2015 9:38 PM, Glen Slick wrote: > On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Sean Caron wrote: >> The median listing price for them on eBay for a 29B with pack seems to be >> around $3-400 which IMO is a little steep for a 30+ year old PROM >> programmer. Hopefully your best offer successfully accepte

Re: Control Data (?) circuit boards

2015-09-09 Thread Brent Hilpert
On 2015-Sep-09, at 10:58 AM, Mike Stein wrote: > > - Original Message - From: "Paul Koning" > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" > Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 1:08 PM > Subject: Re: Control Data (?) circuit boards > > > >> On Sep 9, 2015, at 1:00 PM, Mike

Re: Control Data (?) circuit boards

2015-09-09 Thread Mike Stein
- Original Message - From: "Paul Koning" To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 1:08 PM Subject: Re: Control Data (?) circuit boards On Sep 9, 2015, at 1:00 PM, Mike Stein wrote: Speaking of Control Data: I have some boards

Re: Problems with 8/A Programmer's Panel

2015-09-09 Thread Charles
Not sure what you mean by membrane keypad. My front panels certainly have real buttons, which makes a clicking noise and feeling when I press them. But maybe I'm confused and there is some membrane behind the keys or something? Johnny That's my mistake. I've never actually seen or touched a DKC

Re: Control Data (?) circuit boards

2015-09-09 Thread Paul Koning
> On Sep 9, 2015, at 1:00 PM, Mike Stein wrote: > > Speaking of Control Data: > > I have some boards out of (AFAIR) a Control Data Display Controller (OSG > 1253/1255), each populated with ~30 10pin TO-5 ICs; they're Fairchild with > (house?) numbers such as 115, 116, 117, 118 and what I assu

Control Data (?) circuit boards

2015-09-09 Thread Mike Stein
Speaking of Control Data: I have some boards out of (AFAIR) a Control Data Display Controller (OSG 1253/1255), each populated with ~30 10pin TO-5 ICs; they're Fairchild with (house?) numbers such as 115, 116, 117, 118 and what I assume to be date codes (all 3 digits, 7xx), e.g. F 115 728.

Formatter for the EMULEX QD01 ST506 Controller?

2015-09-09 Thread Holm Tiffe
..the Subject says all.. I'm looking for the Formater Utility for an Emulx QD01 ..preferably for the PDP11/RT11. The Manual http://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/emulex/QD0151001-C-QD01_DiskController_TechManual_AUG85.pdf lists the Part Numbers for the Software as PX995180x-0y where

Re: Control Data 160

2015-09-09 Thread william degnan
No, I am saying the marquee itself is more like the 160-A than the original 160's. It's missing the "dash A" but otherwise identical in footprint. What gives it away as an original 160 are the fewer controls below the numeric display compared with the 160-A. On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Jay J

Control Data 160

2015-09-09 Thread Billy Pettit
Chuck Guzis wrote: Subject: Re: Control Data 160 Ebay I believe the eBay lister stated that it was a 160, not the -A. So no return jump for you... --Chuck Which would make it even more scarce. There were only a little over a 100 of the 160 models made. And 40+ of them were rebranded as NC

Re: Control Data 160

2015-09-09 Thread Jay Jaeger
On 9/9/2015 11:03 AM, william degnan wrote: > On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Jay Jaeger wrote: > >> On 9/8/2015 9:35 PM, Billy Pettit wrote: >> >>> Chuck Guzis wrote: >>> >>> Subject: Re: Control Data 160 Ebay >>> >>> I believe the eBay lister stated that it was a 160, not the -A. So no >>>

Re: Zendex ZX-200A firmware reverse-engineered

2015-09-09 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 09/09/2015 01:45 AM, Eric Smith wrote: Also, the Intel SBC 202 double-density controller uses an Intel-proprietary M2FM disk format, instead of IBM-compatible MFM. As such, none of the single-chip FDCs are compatible with it, with the possible exception of the Western Digital 1781 (with a hug

Re: Control Data 160

2015-09-09 Thread william degnan
On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Jay Jaeger wrote: > On 9/8/2015 9:35 PM, Billy Pettit wrote: > > > Chuck Guzis wrote: > > > > Subject: Re: Control Data 160 Ebay > > > > I believe the eBay lister stated that it was a 160, not the -A. So no > > return jump for you... > > > > --Chuck > > > > But

Re: Control Data 160

2015-09-09 Thread Jay Jaeger
On 9/8/2015 9:35 PM, Billy Pettit wrote: > Chuck Guzis wrote: > > Subject: Re: Control Data 160 Ebay > > I believe the eBay lister stated that it was a 160, not the -A. So no > return jump for you... > > --Chuck > But quite a lot of the other printed material with it on the listing says 16

Re: Control Data 160

2015-09-09 Thread Al Kossow
On 9/9/15 7:08 AM, Al Kossow wrote: The Blue Cube (Satellite Control Center) had a bunch of them as "Bird Buffers" Likely in Sunnyvale in support of that. http://bitsavers.org/pdf/sdc/scf/TM-1146_Augmented_Satellite_Control_Facility_System_Description_Apr63.pdf is an early description of the

Re: Control Data 160

2015-09-09 Thread Al Kossow
On 9/8/15 10:01 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: I wonder if they were from FNWC or the Naval PG school in Monterey. The Blue Cube (Satellite Control Center) had a bunch of them as "Bird Buffers" Likely in Sunnyvale in support of that. I guess now that it is gone I should put up the docs on the facilit

Re: Problems with 8/A Programmer's Panel

2015-09-09 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2015-09-09 01:07, Charles wrote: Several years ago, Vince Slyngstad and I "cloned" the rare DKC8-AA Programmer's Panel for PDP-8 with some improvements (0.6 vs. 0.3" LED displays, real "click" buttons instead of that membrane keypad, and fixed a couple of bugs in the original design). Also, si

Re: Problems with 8/A Programmer's Panel

2015-09-09 Thread Joseph Lang
The 74f parts may be too fast. Try adding damping resistors (10 to 30 ohms) in series with the outputs to slow things down or just switch to 74ls Joe > On Sep 8, 2015, at 7:07 PM, "Charles" wrote: > > Several years ago, Vince Slyngstad and I "cloned" the rare DKC8-AA > Programmer's Panel for

Zendex ZX-200A firmware reverse-engineered

2015-09-09 Thread Eric Smith
The original proprietor of Zendex has put the firmware of the ZX-200A in the public domain, so I've put my reverse-engineered source code on Github: https://github.com/brouhaha/zx200a-fw The ZX-200A is a single-board Multibus floppy controller intended for Intel MDS (including Series II and S