Re: 21MX proms (per request

2015-09-13 Thread Glen Slick
On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 7:44 PM, J. David Bryan wrote: > On Sunday, September 13, 2015 at 8:42, Jay West wrote: > >> 3) Any I/O instructions in the loader are automatically patched during >> the transfer (based on switch register bits 11 through 6) so that the >> correct I/O address (device) is re

RE: 21MX proms (per request

2015-09-13 Thread Jay West
Dwight wrote... My main thinking was the best place to save a boot is to save it on paper.I recall looking at mine to see how the flag worked.( not mass storage yet so needed a serial loader ). - Ah, gotcha. Yep, you're right! On a few loaders where the part #'s were obscured, I had to

RE: 21MX proms (per request

2015-09-13 Thread J. David Bryan
On Sunday, September 13, 2015 at 8:42, Jay West wrote: > 3) Any I/O instructions in the loader are automatically patched during > the transfer (based on switch register bits 11 through 6) so that the > correct I/O address (device) is referenced. It's actually a bit more nuanced than this. What o

Re: It's BASIC Week again!

2015-09-13 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 09/13/2015 03:24 PM, geneb wrote: If your BASIC of choice can produce a program for the contest, who the hell cares what dialect or platform it's for? As long as it's "vintage", run with it. I suppose that's why the winner will be chosen by random drawing. The winner could well be a Camb

Re: It's BASIC Week again!

2015-09-13 Thread Chris Osborn
On Sep 13, 2015, at 5:24 PM, Eric Christopherson wrote: > What format is the Commodore-sprites.spd file in? SpritePad http://www.subchristsoftware.com/spritepad.htm -- Follow me on twitter: @FozzTexx Check out my blog: http://insentricity.com

Re: Control Data 160

2015-09-13 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Mark Linimon > excellent post. Ditto. Thanks for sharing those memories, and history, with us, Mr. Pettit! Noel

Re: It's BASIC Week again!

2015-09-13 Thread Eric Christopherson
On Sun, Sep 13, 2015, Chris Osborn wrote: > The complete source code has been posted to github, and you can see the full > rules and check out other submissions here: > > https://redd.it/3ko0nd What format is the Commodore-sprites.spd file in? -- Eric Christopherson

Re: It's BASIC Week again!

2015-09-13 Thread geneb
On Sun, 13 Sep 2015, Chuck Guzis wrote: On 09/13/2015 01:18 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: Well, participating in such an event for the fun of it might be interesting, but to be perfectly frank, I don't know what one calls "BASIC" anymore. Does it have to be TRUE BASIC, or are street BASICs accepted?

Re: It's BASIC Week again!

2015-09-13 Thread Sean Conner
It was thus said that the Great Chuck Guzis once stated: > On 09/13/2015 01:18 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: > Well, participating in such an event for the fun of it might be > interesting, but to be perfectly frank, I don't know what one > calls "BASIC" anymore. > > > >Does it have to be TRUE

Re: It's BASIC Week again!

2015-09-13 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 09/13/2015 01:18 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: Well, participating in such an event for the fun of it might be interesting, but to be perfectly frank, I don't know what one calls "BASIC" anymore. Does it have to be TRUE BASIC, or are street BASICs accepted? I didn't want to bring up TRUE BASIC, a

RE: It's BASIC Week again!

2015-09-13 Thread geneb
On Sun, 13 Sep 2015, Dave G4UGM wrote: Well, participating in such an event for the fun of it might be interesting, but to be perfectly frank, I don't know what one calls "BASIC" anymore. Isn't that a Retro Question ? I seem to remember it being asked about GFA basic .. If the disks are st

Re: It's BASIC Week again!

2015-09-13 Thread Fred Cisin
Well, participating in such an event for the fun of it might be interesting, but to be perfectly frank, I don't know what one calls "BASIC" anymore. Does it have to be TRUE BASIC, or are street BASICs accepted?

RE: It's BASIC Week again!

2015-09-13 Thread Dave G4UGM
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Eric > Christopherson > Sent: 13 September 2015 21:07 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > > Subject: Re: It's BASIC Week again! > > On Sun, Sep 13, 2015, Dave G4UGM wrote: > > >

Re: It's BASIC Week again!

2015-09-13 Thread Eric Christopherson
On Sun, Sep 13, 2015, Dave G4UGM wrote: > > > -Original Message- > > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Chuck > > Guzis > > Sent: 13 September 2015 19:51 > > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > > > > Subject: Re: It's BASIC Week again! > >

RE: It's BASIC Week again!

2015-09-13 Thread Dave G4UGM
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Chuck > Guzis > Sent: 13 September 2015 19:51 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > > Subject: Re: It's BASIC Week again! > > On 09/13/2015 11:39 AM, Eric Smith wrote: > > > I know

Re: It's BASIC Week again!

2015-09-13 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 09/13/2015 11:39 AM, Eric Smith wrote: I know that this is for fun, and I don't need either reddit gold nor stickers, but the winners being chosen randomly seriously dampens my enthusiasm for participating. Well, participating in such an event for the fun of it might be interesting, but to

Re: It's BASIC Week again!

2015-09-13 Thread Eric Smith
On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 10:59 AM, Chris Osborn wrote: > and you can see the full rules and check out other submissions here: > https://redd.it/3ko0nd "At the end of the week I'll randomly choose two redditors from the entire week's submissions that will win 3 months of gold, and 5 runner-ups th

It's BASIC Week again!

2015-09-13 Thread Chris Osborn
I do a regular contest on RetroBattlestations called BASIC Week which is a sort of tribute to the days when it was common for programs to be published in books and magazines and people would type them into their computers. One of the neat things about distributing software through type-in listin

RE: 21MX proms (per request

2015-09-13 Thread Jay West
Dwight wrote... > If you still have a working machine, why not disassemble the boot ROMs. They are only a few instructions long. Not necessary, as the source and binary for all the loader roms is in the aforementioned manual. None of them are "only a few instructions long". Most of them are a coupl

Re: punchcard svg file available

2015-09-13 Thread GerardCJAT
@ simski, who wrote : >Hi, > Hmm. russian carsds. sounds interesting. I'm certainly interested in > their looks. could you post a scan of one of them? Well, they very much look ( and feel ) like original IBM ones, with : - Right angles : NO rounded corners - Characters printed : standard 0 t

RE: 21MX proms (per request

2015-09-13 Thread dwight
> From: jw...@classiccmp.org > > Dwight wrote... > > If you still have a working machine, why not disassemble the boot ROMs. > They are only a few instructions long. > Not necessary, as the source and binary for all the loader roms is in the > aforementioned manual. None of them are "only a few

Re: Even more PDP-8/A weirdness

2015-09-13 Thread Jon Elson
On 09/13/2015 02:52 AM, Henk Gooijen wrote: -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Charles Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 12:36 AM To: cctalk digest Subject: Re: Even more PDP-8/A weirdness (was: Re: PDP-8 diagnostics SR settings?) As previously posted, reseating the boot ROMs in their sock

Tandy CoCo Joystick Adapter

2015-09-13 Thread Dale
Greetings cctalk list .. I'm about to do a one time run of some CoCo 3 Joystick adapter PCB's. Using this simple PCB, along with one IC, 8 resistors, some wire and the two connectors, an adapter can be built to adapt an Atari style 9 pin Joystick to a CoCo 6 pin DIN, allowing one to use a digi

RE: bendix GE-15?

2015-09-13 Thread dwight
It looks like it is to check diode boards. Dwight

RE: 21MX proms (per request

2015-09-13 Thread dwight
If you still have a working machine, why not disassemble the boot ROMs. They are only a few instructions long. Making a listing for the 21MX makes it easy to check them from the front panel. As I recall, in the boot sequence, it transfers the ROMs to ram and then executes it. Dwight

Re: Control Data 160

2015-09-13 Thread jwsmobile
On 9/12/2015 8:28 PM, Billy Pettit wrote: A cheaper printer also became available: the 501 drum printer. It was made by Holley Carburator! I think it was their only venture into computerdom. At the University of Missouri, Rolla, I had an orphaned CDC badged printer. Inside nestled among th

Re: Even more PDP-8/A weirdness (was: Re: PDP-8 diagnostics SR settings?)

2015-09-13 Thread Henk Gooijen
-Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Charles Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 12:36 AM To: cctalk digest Subject: Re: Even more PDP-8/A weirdness (was: Re: PDP-8 diagnostics SR settings?) As previously posted, reseating the boot ROMs in their sockets cured the corrupted boot loader issue. Go

piggybacked TSOP memory chips

2015-09-13 Thread dave
Someone on #classiccmp showed pictures of a DDR SDRAM module with piggybacked TSOP memory chips. I've never heard of doing this with surface-mounted devices. http://imgur.com/a/CGk8h -- David Griffith d...@661.org A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is