Re: Query for dec teleprinter roms

2015-11-21 Thread simon
I am very curious as what you are talking about. Is it something with html in mail? I configured thunderbird to only show me plain text so I can focus on the content and not some graphic noise. simon On 20-11-15 23:06, Peter Coghlan wrote: Just a hit . . scanning/printing without having to

1980s/1990s 68k C cross (and not so cross) compilers

2015-11-21 Thread Philip Pemberton
Hi there, I'm working on reverse engineering a radio navigation receiver (surprisingly not GPS, something else... Datatrak if anyone's heard of it) for the purpose of either repurposing the hardware or building up some kind of demo rig. A lot of my effort at the moment seems to be identifying C L

Looking for an IBM manual PDF

2015-11-21 Thread Christian Gauger-Cosgrove
Hello all, I'm looking for a PDF copy of IBM manual GC26-3792-8. The System Generation manual for MVS 3.8; the only PDF I found of GC26-3792 is of the -1 version, which is not particularly helpful. I found a DjVu of the manual (via this site: ) na

Re: 11/70 front panel colors

2015-11-21 Thread Charles Dickman
Here is my attempt to convert the DEC Standard 092 color specifications to RGB http://www.chdickman.com/pdp8/DECcolors/ No Wild Rose on the list, but there is a Brite Rose. On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 4:57 PM, rod wrote: > > Thanks Al > Well they say you never stop leaning and I did n

Re: Query for dec teleprinter roms

2015-11-21 Thread Jay Jaeger
Basically, I expect that the complaint is that the lines have extraneous forced new lines in them instead of just flowing and letting the recipients email client take care of it. I use Thunderbird and noticed this behavior but I don't yet know how to fix it either. Sent from my iPad > On Nov

Re: Query for dec teleprinter roms

2015-11-21 Thread Mouse
> Basically, I expect that the complaint is that the lines have extraneous for$ Actually, speaking personally, that is less relevant than the irregular spacing - and even that is not really much of a problem, not nearly as much of an annoyance as multi-hundred-character lines the recipient is expe

Emulation

2015-11-21 Thread wulfman
I know most of you have or are searching for the real thing. But for those of you that still don't have what your looking for, the arcade emulator MAME has now included most old computers in their emulation program. I have seen everything from apple computers to vax systems, while searching for g

Re: 11/70 front panel colors

2015-11-21 Thread rod
Thank you Charles Most kind. Busy getting ready for the first run of 8/e A and B next week. Rod On 21/11/15 14:04, Charles Dickman wrote: Here is my attempt to convert the DEC Standard 092 color specifications to RGB http://www.chdickman.com/pdp8/DECcolors/ N

Re: Emulation

2015-11-21 Thread Ray Arachelian
On 11/21/2015 10:16 AM, wulfman wrote: > I know most of you have or are searching for the real thing. > But for those of you that still don't have what your looking for, the arcade > emulator MAME has now included most old computers in their emulation > program. What you really want is the MESS pr

RE: 1980s/1990s 68k C cross (and not so cross) compilers

2015-11-21 Thread Mark Green
When I was doing 68K development work in the 1990s we used the GNU C compiler to cross compile. It was a popular choice, so you might want to give it a try. -Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Philip Pemberton Sent: November 21, 2015 5:54

Re: MCBA COBOL/DIBOL App Docs

2015-11-21 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 11/20/2015 09:08 PM, Jason T wrote: Oh dear, look at all this COBOL (and DIBOL, too.) This is pretty dry stuff, folks. But there isn't much out there from this vendor, so here it is: http://chiclassiccomp.org/docs/index.php?dir=%2Fcomputing/MCBA Free to add to your collection, as always.

Brian Brikon diskette drive tester

2015-11-21 Thread Steven Hirsch
I purchased one of these units on eBay and it seems to be working - modulo a few early-80s tantalum caps that went up in smoke. The tester relies on an attached printer to record test results, which are displayed only fleetingly on the front-panel display. Unfortunately it did not come with t

Re: 1980s/1990s 68k C cross (and not so cross) compilers

2015-11-21 Thread Ray Arachelian
On 11/21/2015 05:54 AM, Philip Pemberton wrote: > Hi there, > > I'm working on reverse engineering a radio navigation receiver > (surprisingly not GPS, something else... Datatrak if anyone's heard of > it) for the purpose of either repurposing the hardware or building up > some kind of demo rig. >

Re: Emulation

2015-11-21 Thread Al Kossow
On 11/21/15 7:16 AM, wulfman wrote: I have been collecting roms for years for repair of my huge collection of game board but this is the first time i have seen the retro computers in the rom sets. There were two independent projects, MAME and MESS. MESS was merged with MAME recently to make c

Re: 1980s/1990s 68k C cross (and not so cross) compilers

2015-11-21 Thread Al Kossow
On 11/21/15 8:09 AM, Mark Green wrote: Does anyone know which 68000 compilers were available in 1993, and which could produce ROM code? Or a few? In the embedded space, Alcyon and Green Hills Metrowerks maybe. I'm more familiar with their CodeWarrior Mac product. They were bought out by Mot

Re: HP 7914

2015-11-21 Thread Al Kossow
On 11/20/15 7:16 PM, Jay West wrote: I have a board from a HP 7914 disc drive (07914-60001). No clue how I obtained it, as I've never owned a 7914 (but did have a hard luck case 7912, which is long gone). In any case... free for shipping if anyone wants it. J There are a bunch of 7912/4 boar

Re: Looking for an IBM manual PDF

2015-11-21 Thread Al Kossow
On 11/21/15 1:38 AM, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove wrote: Unfortunately, downloading the DjVu file does nothing and Firefox reports it as a web forgery. If someone can find real djvu files for those manuals, I will convert them to pdf and put them on bitsavers. Any site that requires you to star

Re: 1980s/1990s 68k C cross (and not so cross) compilers

2015-11-21 Thread Al Kossow
On 11/21/15 2:54 AM, Philip Pemberton wrote: Which is one instruction longer... so it's not Aztec. Alcyon was popular.

Re: 1980s/1990s 68k C cross (and not so cross) compilers

2015-11-21 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 11/21/2015 08:51 AM, Ray Arachelian wrote: On the Mac side there was Sesame C, a shareware compiler, not sure if it could produce ROM code, and ofc Think C. It's probably unlikely that these were used on the DataTrak. Let's not forget the VersaDOS/EXORmacs platforms. That's where I did m

Re: 1980s/1990s 68k C cross (and not so cross) compilers

2015-11-21 Thread Al Kossow
On 11/21/15 9:29 AM, Chuck Guzis wrote: Let's not forget the VersaDOS/EXORmacs platforms. That's where I did my 80's 68K work. Arg, totally forgot to include the HP 64000 and Tek 8560 development systems though I'm blanking right now on if they did their own or sold third-party C compilers

Re: 1980s/1990s 68k C cross (and not so cross) compilers

2015-11-21 Thread Dennis Boone
> Does anyone know which 68000 compilers were available in 1993, and > which could produce ROM code? Or a few? There are a few listed here: http://www.faqs.org/faqs/motorola/68k-chips-faq/ De

Re: 1980s/1990s 68k C cross (and not so cross) compilers

2015-11-21 Thread Paul Koning
> On Nov 21, 2015, at 12:40 PM, Al Kossow wrote: > > On 11/21/15 9:29 AM, Chuck Guzis wrote: > >> Let's not forget the VersaDOS/EXORmacs platforms. That's where I did my >> 80's 68K work. >> > > Arg, totally forgot to include the HP 64000 and Tek 8560 development systems > though I'm > bla

Re: MCBA COBOL/DIBOL App Docs

2015-11-21 Thread Jason T
On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Chuck Guzis wrote: > MCBA is still very much in business, FWIW. I've got the source to the usual You know, I googled around with their name and various search terms and never bothered to just go to mcba.com. It looks like their only current product is called Qu

Re: 1980s/1990s 68k C cross (and not so cross) compilers

2015-11-21 Thread Al Kossow
On 11/21/15 10:44 AM, Paul Koning wrote: Arg, totally forgot to include the HP 64000 and Tek 8560 development systems though I'm blanking right now on if they did their own or sold third-party C compilers. Third party, I believe. I used one of those for a 68040 (developing the DECbridge 9

Re: 11/70 front panel colors

2015-11-21 Thread Christian Gauger-Cosgrove
On 21 November 2015 at 09:04, Charles Dickman wrote: > Here is my attempt to convert the DEC Standard 092 color specifications to RGB > > http://www.chdickman.com/pdp8/DECcolors/ > > No Wild Rose on the list, but there is a Brite Rose. > A possible slight correction for your list. Pantone Process

Re: Gene Amdahl, Pioneer of Mainframe Computing, Dies at 92

2015-11-21 Thread Murray McCullough
Stephan, referring to the article in The New York Times, mentions Amdal, Cray and Wozniak: Pioneers in computing whether large, super-large or small(micro). Who knows of, in the microcomputing world, Amdahl and Cray? One wonders! Happy computing, Murray :)

Re: 1980s/1990s 68k C cross (and not so cross) compilers

2015-11-21 Thread Paul Koning
> On Nov 21, 2015, at 2:38 PM, Al Kossow wrote: > > > > On 11/21/15 10:44 AM, Paul Koning wrote: > >>> Arg, totally forgot to include the HP 64000 and Tek 8560 development >>> systems though I'm >>> blanking right now on if they did their own or sold third-party C compilers. >> >> Third par

Re: Looking for an IBM manual PDF

2015-11-21 Thread Eric Christopherson
On Nov 21, 2015 10:47 AM, "Al Kossow" wrote: > > On 11/21/15 1:38 AM, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove wrote: > >> Unfortunately, downloading the DjVu file does nothing > > > and Firefox reports it as a web forgery. > > If someone can find real djvu files for those manuals, I will > convert them to pdf a

Re: ICL Quattro

2015-11-21 Thread Dave Wade
Might be worth trying the UK tnmoc guys. They have lots of ICL docs. Sorry its cryptic but travelling with limited web access On Nov 12, 2015 12:51 PM, "supervinx" wrote: > Hi! > I found an ICL Quattro desktop computer. > It looks in good shape, I had to repair only the PSU. > Powering it up,

Re: Fw: new message

2015-11-21 Thread Dave Wade
Most browsers can be hijacked via DNS or IP address stealing. Thats how much public access wifi works. Any attempt to access any page diverts to a login page. On Nov 14, 2015 12:05 AM, "Chuck Guzis" wrote: > On 11/13/2015 09:29 AM, ben wrote: > > Windows new feature ... Auto Click >> Sigh. >> > >

Re: Looking for an IBM manual PDF

2015-11-21 Thread Christian Gauger-Cosgrove
On 21 November 2015 at 20:40, Eric Christopherson wrote: > FWIW, Christian's message is shown in Gmail along with a warning that > "similar" messages (similar how?) are often phishing attempts. > Porbably because URLs were in the e-mail, I would guess. ...And now I'm probably in a spam list. So t

Re: Fw: new message

2015-11-21 Thread Eric Christopherson
On Sun, Nov 22, 2015, Dave Wade wrote: > Most browsers can be hijacked via DNS or IP address stealing. Thats how > much public access wifi works. Any attempt to access any page diverts to a > login page. True enough. When I first read Chuck's message I misunderstood and thought he meant that IE op

Re: Fw: new message

2015-11-21 Thread Adrian Stoness
Yes they do buy the new merackie gear idiots On Nov 22, 2015 12:14 AM, "Eric Christopherson" wrote: > On Sun, Nov 22, 2015, Dave Wade wrote: > > Most browsers can be hijacked via DNS or IP address stealing. Thats how > > much public access wifi works. Any attempt to access any page diverts to > a