On Wed, Dec 02, 2015 at 06:47:12PM +, Rich Alderson wrote:
> From: Pontus Pihlgren
> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 12:19 AM
>
> > On Wed, Dec 02, 2015 at 02:13:06AM +, Rich Alderson wrote:
>
> >> KL-10/PDP-10/PDP-6 triprocessor, and KL-10/PDP-10 dual processor and
>
> > You make
what all do you want?
On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 12:59 AM, Eric Smith wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 9:40 PM, Paul Anderson wrote:
> > I might have a hard copy I can loan you. Can you scan a copy for
> bitsavers?
>
> Yes. I'd be glad to do that, and mail it back. Thank you!
>
On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 9:22 PM, devin davison wrote:
>
> I removed that cpu board out and took a couple of pictures. There is one
> connector, on the top, with two notches in it. Same as the controller board
> I just bought. I would assume that is the DSSI connector?
>
> http://postimg.org/gallery
On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 11:47 AM, Rich Alderson
wrote:
> Yes. Eric Smith was incorrect in his identification of the processor as a
> KI-10.
That was a thinko or typo. I knew it was a KA10, I'm not sure how KI10
got into the message. Thanks for the correction.
On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 9:40 PM, Paul Anderson wrote:
> I might have a hard copy I can loan you. Can you scan a copy for bitsavers?
Yes. I'd be glad to do that, and mail it back. Thank you!
I just did a quick check and found PDT11/110 and /130 prints, along with
VT278.
The PDT11/150 could be anywhere. I might have manuals and pocket guides
also.
When I have time and money, I'll have my librarian come back for a few days.
D
n
On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 10:43
Thank you for all the helpful information Glen. I will definately grab
that scsi interface when i get the funds, I have a scsi cd drive already to
be used with my SGi gear.
I removed that cpu board out and took a couple of pictures. There is one
connector, on the top, with two notches in it. Same
I’d sure love to see a copy on bitsavers, one of these days I’d like to try to
resurrect mine. So it would be great if someone who can scan the printset
would. :-)
Zane
> On Dec 2, 2015, at 8:40 PM, Paul Anderson wrote:
>
> I might have a hard copy I can loan you. Can you scan a copy for bi
I might have a hard copy I can loan you. Can you scan a copy for bitsavers?
Paul
On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 10:37 PM, Eric Smith wrote:
> I have a non-working PDT-11/150, which fails self test 7 (console
> USART) and when not in test mode, and with autobaud disabled, doesn't
> send anything to the
I have a non-working PDT-11/150, which fails self test 7 (console
USART) and when not in test mode, and with autobaud disabled, doesn't
send anything to the console.
I dumped the ROMs (two 82S2708 1Kx8 PROM for LSI-11 code, three 8316E
2Kx8 masked ROM for the 8085 I/O processor, and one 8316E for
I tried measuring a whole bunch of circles, and I can't find any
rational reason why dividing the circumference by the diameter never
came out even! :-)
On Thu, 3 Dec 2015, Johnny Billquist wrote:
You need to measure more of them! You've just been unlucky.
OK!
I started to wonder whether I nee
On 2015-12-03 00:22, Fred Cisin wrote:
On Wed, 2 Dec 2015, Tony wrote:
Mathematically, circumference is PI times diameter or 3.14159.
times the diameter.
That's of a CIRCLE, and once you deform it, it ceases to be a circle.
I tried measuring a whole bunch of circles, and I can't find any
On Wed, 2 Dec 2015, Tony wrote:
Mathematically, circumference is PI times diameter or 3.14159. times the
diameter.
That's of a CIRCLE, and once you deform it, it ceases to be a circle.
I tried measuring a whole bunch of circles, and I can't find any rational
reason why dividing the circu
Il giorno mer, 02/12/2015 alle 11.32 -0800, Glen Slick ha scritto:
> On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 9:43 AM, supervinx wrote:
> > Hi!
> > I'm looking for drivers of E2071/82341 HP-IB ISA card.
> > I think they should be contained in the WNG0202.EXE self extracting
> > archive.
>
> If you go to the Previo
On 12/02/2015 01:51 PM, Rik Bos wrote:
It's not the first time this discussion comes around.. Poly Urethane
rubber, it's called in dutch 'precisie buis/slang' and you can get it
in several sizes from 6mm to . large http://www.deboerit.nl/ is my
supplier it's a local firm.
That's curious--when
Hi
Well it certainly works for you Rik.
I dont speak Dutch and its not clear exactly which of the products you
refer to.
The end of hub appears to have been turned on a lathe.
So if you speak Dutch and have a nice big lathe in your shed you can fix
your TU58
For us lesser mortals the searc
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> Van: cctech [mailto:cctech-boun...@classiccmp.org] Namens tony duell
> Verzonden: woensdag 2 december 2015 22:29
> Aan: General Discussion: On-Topic Posts
> Onderwerp: RE: TU-58
>
> >
> > This is the picture..
> > https://www.flickr.com/photos/hp-fix/94528052
Michael Thompson wrote:
> 1026 TOPS-10 DEC Development Marlboro, MA KL1099 Tri-SMP Scrapped 12/14/97
> 1042 TOPS-10 DEC Development Marlboro, MA KL1099 Tri-SMP Scrapped 12/14/97
> 1322 TOPS-10 DEC Development Marlboro, MA KL10 Tri-SMP
This is almost CERTAINLY derived from the list of CPU (APR) ID
> I'm also intessted in this. I have a dual TU-58 that belongs to my VAX
> 11/730 that need new capstan rubber. European source...
>
> /Anders
This is the picture..
https://www.flickr.com/photos/hp-fix/9452805294/in/album-72157634959418702/
I'm using a special kind of hose, which is precisely ma
> Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2015 12:40:08 +
> From: Rod Smallwood
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
>
> Subject: TU-58
> Message-ID: <565ee6a8.2030...@btinternet.com>
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>
> Dear List
> While the silk
>
> This is the picture..
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/hp-fix/9452805294/in/album-72157634959418702/
> I'm using a special kind of hose, which is precisely made.
OK, what is it called, who makes it, and where can you buy it?
-tony
Anders,
I can fix them, if you look at my Flickr page you can see some examples of new
capstans I made.about halfway the site.
www.flickr.com/hp-fix
And of the HP3000 ;)
-Rik
-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: "Anders Sandahl"
Verzonden: 2-12-2015 20:51
Aan: "cct...@classiccmp.org"
Onde
I have no idea what the material is called. I just bought something
that was close on the O.D. and I.D. that I thought would work. But,
when I look up PEX tubing at Home Depot, I found some stuff with .625"
O.D. which is maybe just a tad smaller than what I found, and 0.5" I.D.
which seems bigge
From: Todd Killingsworth
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 11:18 AM
>> Lots of places. The folks at Oak Ridge ("Atomic City") ran a 5-processor
>> SMP configuration.
> Rich - can you elaborate on this any? Which facility, what was it used
> for? I've got family from Oak Ridge, and its unusual
On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 9:43 AM, supervinx wrote:
> Hi!
> I'm looking for drivers of E2071/82341 HP-IB ISA card.
> I think they should be contained in the WNG0202.EXE self extracting
> archive.
If you go to the Previous Versions tab on this page should be able to
find Keysight IO Libraries Suite 1
>Lots of places. The folks at Oak Ridge ("Atomic City") ran a 5-processor
>SMP configuration.
Rich - can you elaborate on this any? Which facility, what was it used
for? I've got family from Oak Ridge, and its unusual for my vintage
computer / atomic history to intersect like this.
Todd Killin
Sorry forgot to use feed back from the tape.
Usually a timing track or a phase locked loop clock drived from the data
stream.
Don't worry
On 02/12/2015 17:50, tony duell wrote:
Circumference and Diameter are linked by the constant Pi and therefore
are an entity.
Its a little more complex wit
From: Pontus Pihlgren
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 12:19 AM
> On Wed, Dec 02, 2015 at 02:13:06AM +, Rich Alderson wrote:
>> KL-10/PDP-10/PDP-6 triprocessor, and KL-10/PDP-10 dual processor and
> You make it sound like someone hacked up a computer consisting of one
> KL-10, one PDP
Is that PEX tubing you are referring to Jay?
Any one have ideas for a TU10 or other tape drive capstans?
On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 9:31 AM, Jay Jaeger wrote:
> I used orange over black tubing designed for carrying water under
> pressure from Home Depot (here in the US), and then sanded it down to
>
> Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2015 09:18:56 +0100
> From: Pontus Pihlgren
> Subject: Triprocessor PDP-10 [Was: Re: [multicians] Emacs humor]
>
> You make it sound like someone hacked up a computer consisting of one
> KL-10, one PDP-10 and one PDP-6. But I assume you mean homogenic
> three-processor machine
> Mathematically, circumference is PI times diameter or 3.14159. times
> the diameter.
Doesn't that depend on the defintion of 'distance' in that a circle is the
set of points in a plane equidistant from a given fixed point? Using the
'normal' definition of distance you do indeed get the ab
On Wed, 2 Dec 2015, Paul Koning wrote:
I'm sorry for stirring up this hornet's nest.
Well, I put "emoticons" in, in a futile attempt to indicate that I was
joking. ("emoticon captioned for the humo[u]r impaired") I also hoped that
the "in some states" would give a further hint to that. I cou
>
> Circumference and Diameter are linked by the constant Pi and therefore
> are an entity.
> Its a little more complex with a rubber wheel and its indented path.
Indeed. And that may even depend on the type of 'rubber' used and how
it deforms when pressed against the cartridge drive wheel. Remem
In my case the roller does not distort noticeably - it was pretty stiff
material.
JRJ
On 12/2/2015 10:48 AM, Paul Koning wrote:
> I'm sorry for stirring up this hornet's nest.
>
> I actually meant to ask a real question, and the way I phrased it made a mess
> of things. The real question: fo
On 12/2/2015 9:50 AM, Rod Smallwood wrote:
> Thanks Jay
> Yes there's an optical encoder on the other end of the motor.
> Depending on the pressure of the roller on the cassette drive wheel it
> will deform more or less.
> That effectivley changes the diameter and hence the speed. So yo
Hi!
I'm looking for drivers of E2071/82341 HP-IB ISA card.
I think they should be contained in the WNG0202.EXE self extracting
archive.
Thanks!
On 2 December 2015 at 17:54, Jos Dreesen wrote:
> On 02.12.2015 15:04, Liam Proven wrote:
>>
>> On 24 November 2015 at 08:45, Mark Wickens
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for letting us know about this William - I'm sure there is still
>>> plenty of interest in Oberon, Modula-2, Modula-3 and other deriv
I'd rarther get a bit of tube for my TU58.
Hint The key is to understand the nature of elasticity in particular the
rate change with respect to time.
On 02/12/2015 16:48, Paul Koning wrote:
I'm sorry for stirring up this hornet's nest.
I actually meant to ask a real question, and the way I p
On 02.12.2015 15:04, Liam Proven wrote:
On 24 November 2015 at 08:45, Mark Wickens wrote:
Thanks for letting us know about this William - I'm sure there is still
plenty of interest in Oberon, Modula-2, Modula-3 and other derivatives.
Was there ever an ARM version? I am wondering how hard it
I'm sorry for stirring up this hornet's nest.
I actually meant to ask a real question, and the way I phrased it made a mess
of things. The real question: for rubber rollers in this sort of application,
does the distortion that occurs significantly affect the circumference? Or is
the nature
On 2 December 2015 at 17:13, Tony wrote:
> Mathematically, circumference is PI times diameter or 3.14159. times the
> diameter.
[1] Please do not top-quote.
[2] Turn up your humour detectors.
The OP was making a joke about this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_Pi_Bill
That is why h
I say.. come on chaps.. this is not math 101.
Any more suggestions for sources of a bit of rubber tube?
Rod Smallwood
On 02/12/2015 16:13, Tony wrote:
Mathematically, circumference is PI times diameter or 3.14159.
times the diameter.
On 12/2/2015 11:06 AM, Fred Cisin wrote:
On Wed, 2
Hi Guys
Circumference and Diameter are linked by the constant Pi and therefore
are an entity.
Its a little more complex with a rubber wheel and its indented path.
However as we are using closed loop control
when the measured term equals the target term there you are.
You can get into loop fil
Ugh... Could this thread get any more
offensive to people's knowledge..
On 12/2/2015 11:13 AM, Tony wrote:
Mathematically, circumference is PI
times diameter or 3.14159. times
the diameter.
On 12/2/2015 11:06 AM, Fred Cisin wrote:
On Wed, 2 Dec 2015, Paul Koning wrote:
Actually, it's
Mathematically, circumference is PI times diameter or 3.14159. times
the diameter.
On 12/2/2015 11:06 AM, Fred Cisin wrote:
On Wed, 2 Dec 2015, Paul Koning wrote:
Actually, it's the circumference that matters, not the diameter.
I always thought that there was a relatively stable relatio
On Wed, 2 Dec 2015, Paul Koning wrote:
Actually, it's the circumference that matters, not the diameter.
I always thought that there was a relatively stable relationship between
those! :-)
Circumference tends to be a little over 3 times the diameter (3.0 in some
states):-)
Does the circ
> On Dec 2, 2015, at 10:50 AM, Rod Smallwood
> wrote:
>
> Thanks Jay
>Yes there's an optical encoder on the other end of the motor.
> Depending on the pressure of the roller on the cassette drive wheel it will
> deform more or less.
> That effectivley changes the diameter and hence
Thanks Jay
Yes there's an optical encoder on the other end of the motor.
Depending on the pressure of the roller on the cassette drive wheel it
will deform more or less.
That effectivley changes the diameter and hence the speed. So you need
to set it.
Its a DC motor so you can con
I used orange over black tubing designed for carrying water under
pressure from Home Depot (here in the US), and then sanded it down to a
reasonable O.D. size (IIRC). Worked great.
I don't know that the diameter is absolutely critical - I think it has
some kind of speed encoding.
On 12/2/2015 6:
On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 7:40 AM, Rod Smallwood
wrote:
> I have a TU-58 and yes it had gooey drive wheels.
> Now it no longer has that problem but I have black and gooey fingers.!!!
Yep.
> I know this issue has been addressed before.
Yep.
> So I think somebody must know where I can get the right
On 12/2/15 12:18 AM, Pontus Pihlgren wrote:
On Wed, Dec 02, 2015 at 02:13:06AM +, Rich Alderson wrote:
KL-10/PDP-10/PDP-6 triprocessor,
Who, besides Peter Löthberg, ran threeprocessor machines?
SAIL, which is the triprocessor Rich is referring to.
On 24 November 2015 at 08:45, Mark Wickens wrote:
> Thanks for letting us know about this William - I'm sure there is still
> plenty of interest in Oberon, Modula-2, Modula-3 and other derivatives.
Was there ever an ARM version? I am wondering how hard it would be to
port to Raspberry Pi...
--
Spartan 3E inputs can be made 5V tolerant with a series resistor...
http://www.xilinx.com/support/answers/19146.html
Dave
G4UGM
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of William
> Maddox
> Sent: 02 December 2015 08:32
> To: 'General Discussio
Dear List
While the silk screeners process the panels I have a
couple of days for a little project
I have a TU-58 and yes it had gooey drive wheels.
Now it no longer has that problem but I have black and gooey fingers.!!!
I know this issue has been addressed before.
So I think
>> I think the elevator hack involved the AI Lab PDP-6 (or maybe, later,
>> PDP-10)
I can supply definitive bits here (I have read the code involved). The actual
interface to the elevator was in one of the PDP-11 front-ends on the MIT-AI
KA10 (memory escapes me as to whether it was the TV
Hi Ethan,
I would be *very* interested on one of those for my 11/05 - including
shipping to sunny Australia :-)
Doug
On 12/2/2015 11:13 AM, Ethan Dicks wrote:
On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 3:37 PM, Mattis Lind wrote:
... should be passive...
The same goes for the VT1XX option on
the VT100 which
> Do you have 5 volt I/O with the OberonStaion FPGA?
> I was thinking of using it as general FPGA card.
No, the FPGA pins are neither 5V, nor 5V-tolerant.
The last Xilinx FPGA that had 5V-tolerant I/O was the Spartan II.
Xilinx does still make CPLDs that are 5V-tolerant, the XC95nnXL
series.
On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 1:18 AM, Pontus Pihlgren wrote:
> You make it sound like someone hacked up a computer consisting of one
> KL-10, one PDP-10 and one PDP-6.
Yes, the processors were a KL10, a KI10, and a 166 (PDP-6 CPU).
Needless to say, that was not a DEC-supported configuration.
>Do you have 5 volt I/O with the OberonStaion FPGA?
>I was thinking of using it as general FPGA card.
The serial port is 3.3v according to the website. I haven't attempted to use
the serial port or the GPIO pins, but I believe they are all 3.3 volts for the
Spartan 3 series. Check the data sh
On Wed, Dec 02, 2015 at 02:13:06AM +, Rich Alderson wrote:
>
> KL-10/PDP-10/PDP-6 triprocessor, and KL-10/PDP-10 dual processor and
>
You make it sound like someone hacked up a computer consisting of one
KL-10, one PDP-10 and one PDP-6. But I assume you mean homogenic
three-processor ma
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