Re: Display-less computing

2015-12-17 Thread Mike Boyle
On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 12:11 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: > I've only ever seen them called "12" and "11" for the top and next rows respectively. For example, the card code listing on the IBM 360 "green card" shows them that way (e.g., A is 12-1). >>> Same here.

Re: Mystery IC: Allen Bradley 314B102

2015-12-17 Thread Mike Ross
In extreme brief as nearly 3am and I've been hacking late on a 3277 :) 1. The mechanism has just been extensively serviced by an expert and works perfectly in local typewriter mode. 2. Possible bad contacts had occurred to me and will be investigated. 3. Yes there's another board that drives

Re: Mystery IC: Allen Bradley 314B102

2015-12-17 Thread Paul Berger
On 2015-12-17 2:26 AM, Mike Ross wrote: On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 8:01 PM, Brent Hilpert wrote: On 2015-Dec-15, at 6:21 PM, Mike Ross wrote: On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Mike Stein wrote: I have taken Brent up on that :-) I'll poke a bit more

RE: VAX 4000-500 PSU Overload?

2015-12-17 Thread Maciej W. Rozycki
On Sun, 13 Dec 2015, Robert Jarratt wrote: > > No leaking ChemiCon SXF-series capacitors inside? They seem to suffer > > from some kind of design or manufacturing defect and consequently the > > electrolyte gets through the seal eventually even in parts never used. A > > number of DEC PSUs

Re: Decisions you regret (classiccmp related)

2015-12-17 Thread Doug Ingraham
I regret that when I obtained my Straight 8 system in the early 80's I chose not to take the ASR-35. In retrospect this was a huge mistake. My thinking at the time was in addition to not having room for it it was noisy and would be difficult to maintain. I used my Processor Tech Sol 20 as the

Re: Diablo 3000 schematics wanted

2015-12-17 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 06:07:24PM +, tony duell wrote: > > I have one that was mangled in the house-move (the movers decided to cut the > keyboard > cable for me). Wow, did you get any compensation? /P

Re: WTB: PDP-11/03 front bezel

2015-12-17 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 09:30:23AM +1000, ste...@malikoff.com wrote: > > I've been after one for a while, too. I was very kindly offered one from a > listmember who would have > taken it off his own machine, but I felt that would have deprived that box. > I'd be divided if I'd get that offer.

Re: Decisions you regret (classiccmp related)

2015-12-17 Thread Al Kossow
The biggest one, which started me down the path of software preservation, was giving away all the DECtapes that were on UW-Milwaukee's TSS/8 system to Gary Coleman in Cleveland. I managed to find a box or two that other people on the system kept, which is where what I have of the TSS/8 sources

Re: Decisions you regret (classiccmp related)

2015-12-17 Thread Lee Courtney
About 10-15 years ago a pristine multi-rack fully stuffed HP1000 F-Series with disc, 1/2 tape, and rack of analog I/O (maybe 2250?) at AuctionBDI. I didn't have room. Checked the following week and no-one had bid on it and it was gone, probably scrapped. Minimum bid was $25. :-( Even worse was

Re: Decisions you regret (classiccmp related)

2015-12-17 Thread william degnan
On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 11:53 AM, Al Kossow wrote: > The biggest one, which started me down the path of software preservation, > was giving away all the DECtapes that were on UW-Milwaukee's TSS/8 system > to Gary Coleman in Cleveland. > What you talkin' bout Willis? I

Re: What did computers without screens do?

2015-12-17 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 12/17/2015 09:58 AM, Diane Bruce wrote: Old thread, but I remember writing a tic-tac-toe program for the 1401 using the sense switches and lights. Does that count as a display less computer? Certainly, it counts as not having a "screen", which is the topic. And then, I wonder if the

Re: Decisions you regret Was: Mystery IC: Allen Bradley 314B102

2015-12-17 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 10:17:20AM -0500, Noel Chiappa wrote: > > Although I suspect a lot of people here have stories like that... > Most of the stories here top mine but I keep kicking myself for leaving a DEC prioris behind. It's a relatively bulky x86 but it uses the same PSU as a broken

Re: WTB: PDP-11/03 front bezel

2015-12-17 Thread Rod Smallwood
On 17/12/2015 16:53, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 09:30:23AM +1000, ste...@malikoff.com wrote: I've been after one for a while, too. I was very kindly offered one from a listmember who would have taken it off his own machine, but I felt that would have deprived that box.

Re: What did computers without screens do?

2015-12-17 Thread Diane Bruce
On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 04:47:33PM -0700, ben wrote: > On 12/16/2015 1:29 PM, Mike Stein wrote: > > > So you can definitely do lots of useful stuff without a screen, Old thread, but I remember writing a tic-tac-toe program for the 1401 using the sense switches and lights. Does that count as a

RE: Diablo 3000 schematics wanted

2015-12-17 Thread tony duell
> > > I have one that was mangled in the house-move (the movers decided to cut > > the keyboard > > cable for me). > > Wow, did you get any compensation? You are joking, right? Their 'terms and conditions' mean you had to claim within 7 days of the move. I don;t know anybody who could inspect

Re: Decisions you regret (classiccmp related)

2015-12-17 Thread Mike Boyle
On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Doug Ingraham wrote: > I regret that when I obtained my Straight 8 system in the early 80's I > chose not to take the ASR-35. In retrospect this was a huge mistake. My > thinking at the time was in addition to not having room for it

Re: WTB: PDP-11/03 front bezel

2015-12-17 Thread Ethan Dicks
On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 12:17 PM, Rod Smallwood wrote: > I had always wondered about what bezels are made of. > The one off my 8/e seems too heavy for aluminium. > It must be diecast something or other. Zamac? -ethan

RE: The Structure of SYSTEM/360 (Blaauw & Brooks, et al.)

2015-12-17 Thread Paul Birkel
I find that Parts 1 and 2 appear as Chapters 43 & 44 in "Computer Structures: Readings and Examples" (Bell & Newell; 1971), but that seems to be it for public availability. For those chapters, see: http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/people/gbell/CGB%20Files/Computer%20S

Re: Decisions you regret Was: Mystery IC: Allen Bradley 314B102

2015-12-17 Thread Adrian Graham
On 17 December 2015 at 17:07, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: > Most of the stories here top mine but I keep kicking myself for > leaving a DEC prioris behind. It's a relatively bulky x86 but it > uses the same PSU as a broken AlphaServer 1000 4/233 I have. I > suspected it was the

Re: A suitable project for Display-less computing

2015-12-17 Thread Fred Cisin
On Thu, 17 Dec 2015, Mike Boyle wrote: I would love to have a micro and all of the 70 and 80- 87 Honda Motorcycle parts! The old ATC's Gotta Love em! Then you should start designing a database to keep track of the parts, and the ones that you have. You will need several boxes of punched

RE: Decisions you regret (classiccmp related)

2015-12-17 Thread tony duell
> > We were moving, and my Spousal Unit convinced me to toss things I hadn't > touched in a while - including my Intercept Jr. with the 32K battery-backed > RAM card, and an old-style acoustic coupler modem.Now that I'm > considering a major move again (after my daughter goes off to college,

Re: Decisions you regret (classiccmp related)

2015-12-17 Thread Ian S. King
We were moving, and my Spousal Unit convinced me to toss things I hadn't touched in a while - including my Intercept Jr. with the 32K battery-backed RAM card, and an old-style acoustic coupler modem.Now that I'm considering a major move again (after my daughter goes off to college, in a couple

Re: Decisions you regret (classiccmp related)

2015-12-17 Thread Al Kossow
On 12/17/15 10:44 AM, Lee Courtney wrote: About 10-15 years ago a pristine multi-rack fully stuffed HP1000 F-Series with disc, 1/2 tape, and rack of analog I/O (maybe 2250?) at AuctionBDI. I have it in storage in San Carlos.

Re: Decisions you regret

2015-12-17 Thread mark
From: "j...@cimmeri.com" Subject: Re: Decisions you regret m...@markesystems.com wrote: Yep. Among the things that I have given away (to Goodwill, or possibly Salvation Army) - all in running condition: I'm going to go shoot myself now. ~~ I'm curious, why were

Another apple II+ repair

2015-12-17 Thread Terry Stewart
For anyone interested, here's another repair writeup. I didn't keep as good a notes as I should have on this one and the memory (my memory!) is of little help. If I'm going write these things up I really should do it straight afterwards! Anyway, the board lives now. It's something I could never

Re: WTB: PDP-11/03 front bezel

2015-12-17 Thread Jacob Ritorto
I have a complete, unpopulated 11/03 chassis if you'd be interested in trading for some number of unibus and q-bus modules on my wish list - looking for scsi interfaces, ethernet, working -15v h745 bricks and a Micro PDP11 power supply. Have any stuff like this? thx jake On Tue, Dec 15, 2015

Re: IBM PS/2 Model 70 HARD DRIVE NEEDED

2015-12-17 Thread COURYHOUSE
did all mod 70s have SCSI drives? Ed# In a message dated 12/17/2015 10:54:50 P.M. US Mountain Standard Tim, mok...@gmail.com writes: I never saw this post, but did end up with a 30MB. I will take another if available though. On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Daniel Snyder

Re: Decisions you regret Was: Mystery IC: Allen Bradley

2015-12-17 Thread Mike Boyle
On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 7:41 PM, wrote: > My Dad used to bring home bits of dead System/360 from work, my brother > and I > would of course pull this stuff to bits 'just to see what was inside'. > Printer trains, SLT cards, a pile of SMS cards from his earlier workings >

Re: Another apple II+ repair

2015-12-17 Thread Mike Boyle
On Dec 17, 2015 4:40 PM, "Terry Stewart" wrote: > > For anyone interested, here's another repair writeup. I didn't keep as good > a notes as I should have on this one and the memory (my memory!) is of > little help. If I'm going write these things up I really should do it

Re: IBM PS/2 Model 70 HARD DRIVE NEEDED

2015-12-17 Thread Guy Sotomayor
No they weren't SCSI. Those were only through either a "spock" or "tribble" MCA card. Those were the code names. I have *no* idea what the "real" IBM designation was. ;-) The desktop PS/2 machines (50, 50Z, 70, etc) were all designed with robotic assembly in mind (that's why there are no

Re: Mystery IC: Allen Bradley 314B102

2015-12-17 Thread Tothwolf
On Tue, 15 Dec 2015, Mike Ross wrote: On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 4:59 AM, tony duell wrote: This board does not look that complicated and all the ICs have known numbers on them (mostly TTL logic). If it were mine I'd trace out the schematic. That's true and possible.

Re: Decisions you regret

2015-12-17 Thread Peter Cetinski
> On Dec 17, 2015, at 4:40 PM, devin davison wrote: > > I Volunteer constantly at the salvation army looking for such things to > show up. I love your dedication to the hobby. Working at the Salvation Army just to get an "in" on the vintage computers. Brilliant!

Re: Decisions you regret (classiccmp related)

2015-12-17 Thread Paxton Hoag
I have two big regrets (lots of little ones). the first was a Litton 1251 I got in the early 1980s for $25 from the State of Oregon. 5 2X3' components, control, printer, tape reader/ punch and two 200K drum memory units. Played with for a while and scrapped it when aluminum was bringing 80 cents

RE: The Structure of SYSTEM/360 (Blaauw & Brooks, et al.)

2015-12-17 Thread Dave G4UGM
If no one else manages to get these please e-mail me off list. > -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Paul Birkel > Sent: 17 December 2015 18:41 > To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts' > > Subject:

Re: WTB: PDP-11/03 front bezel

2015-12-17 Thread steven
Original Message Subject: Re: WTB: PDP-11/03 front bezel From:"Rod Smallwood" Date:Fri, December 18, 2015 3:17 am To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"