Re: Free HP 3000 Equipment for removal (Denver Craigslist)

2016-01-05 Thread Lee Courtney
THis looks like a very nice system. Note this is the 16-bit stack architecture hardware part of the 3000 family. Not the 32-bit PA-RISC incarnation. Which makes it that much more appealing. However, the Series 30 is s-l-o-w. No mention of software, not sure if the Series 30 can run MPE-V, maybe

VCF East -- Brian Kernighan video

2016-01-05 Thread Evan Koblentz
You know you wanna watch. :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUWt_StXKsY

RE: Free HP 3000 Equipment for removal (Denver Craigslist)

2016-01-05 Thread Johannes Thelen
Oh, I really like to get one Series 30 next to my Series III, but I'm wrong side of ocean and I have too much stuff/projects already (if you ask my girlfriend... ;) It is funny how much this old stuff is still in this globe. I hope those 30s find good homes. - Johannes ThelenFinland Before

RE: Free HP 3000 Equipment for removal (Denver Craigslist)

2016-01-05 Thread Rik Bos
I know the feeling. -Rik -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: "Johannes Thelen" Verzonden: ‎5-‎1-‎2016 19:03 Aan: "General Discussion: On-Topic Posts" Onderwerp: RE: Free HP 3000 Equipment for removal (Denver Craigslist) Oh, I really like

Re: Floppy recovery

2016-01-05 Thread Terry Stewart
>I wonder how it could take them three months to figure something out. Maybe Chuck can comment. Yes, I would have thought an old MSDOS machine with a 360k 5.25 inch floppy drive plus Chuck's 22DISK program and the job could have been done in a day? Might be more too it than it seems maybe...

Re: Floppy recovery

2016-01-05 Thread Peter Cetinski
>> On 01/05/2016 1:15 PM, Ali wrote: >> Anyone know anything about the custom computer and the custom OS? Nor >> implying anything but Chuck do u have any insights? ;) > Didn't Scotty leave his laptop behind when they were saving the whales? "Hello, computer!"

Re: Floppy recovery

2016-01-05 Thread Ethan Dicks
On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Rich Alderson wrote: > From: Jason Scott > Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2016 1:53 PM >> As someone who's dealt with Harlan Ellison on multiple fronts. I will tell >> you the chances he will burn those drawers is 50-50. > > Though I've

Re: Floppy recovery

2016-01-05 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 01/05/2016 12:27 PM, jwsmobile wrote: I wonder how it could take them three months to figure something out. Maybe Chuck can comment. But over a year after they spent the 3 months. Hmmm. It will be interesting to hear what was recovered, though from what has been written and passed down

Re: Floppy recovery

2016-01-05 Thread Terry Stewart
>200 disks, especially if they weren't in great shape, can take some time. I assume they wanted full data recovery using all possible means, >plus conversion of all the documents to a modern format. With one-of-a-kind stuff, you don't have the luxury of experimenting and playing around with it.

Re: Floppy recovery

2016-01-05 Thread peter
On 2016-01-05 15:56, Terry Stewart wrote: I wonder how it could take them three months to figure something out. Maybe Chuck can comment. Yes, I would have thought an old MSDOS machine with a 360k 5.25 inch floppy drive plus Chuck's 22DISK program and the job could have been done in a day?

Re: Floppy recovery

2016-01-05 Thread Ethan Dicks
On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 4:24 PM, Lyle Bickley wrote: > I'm somewhat familiar with the Roddenberry floppies. They were not in a > standard format - so it was not just a matter of reading the floppies, > but developing software to read the specially formatted and encoded >

Re: Floppy recovery

2016-01-05 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 01/05/2016 12:56 PM, Terry Stewart wrote: Yes, I would have thought an old MSDOS machine with a 360k 5.25 inch floppy drive plus Chuck's 22DISK program and the job could have been done in a day? Might be more too it than it seems maybe... I won't comment much other than to say that Mr.

Re: Floppy recovery

2016-01-05 Thread Jason Scott
As someone who's dealt with Harlan Ellison on multiple fronts. I will tell you the chances he will burn those drawers is 50-50. On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 3:27 PM, jwsmobile wrote: > > I wonder how it could take them three months to figure something out. > Maybe Chuck can comment. >

RE: Floppy recovery

2016-01-05 Thread Ali
Anyone know anything about the custom computer and the custom OS? Nor implying anything but Chuck do u have any insights? ;) Original message From: jwsmobile Date: 1/5/2016 12:27 PM (GMT-08:00) To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"

Re: Floppy recovery

2016-01-05 Thread Fred Cisin
On Tue, 5 Jan 2016, Chuck Guzis wrote: Guess who Drivesavers sent the floppy images to for recovery? (Modesty forbids). But we've had a working relationship with them for a long time. Can you enlighten us as to what sort of system/disk format it was?

Re: Floppy recovery

2016-01-05 Thread ethan
of hundreds of drives (cloud), SSD, Smart Phones, etc. This includes those that have been purposely or accidentally erased and/or physically damaged. If a disk has all zeros written to it, as far as I know from what I've read there is no hope of recovering the data. There were rumors that the

RE: Floppy recovery

2016-01-05 Thread Rich Alderson
From: Jason Scott Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2016 1:53 PM > On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 3:27 PM, jwsmobile > wrote: >> On a tangent, from a lecture 35 years ago by Harlan Ellison, I hope all of >> his papers are preserved and transcribed. He had about 15 4 drawer >> cabinets of work

Re: Floppy recovery

2016-01-05 Thread Lyle Bickley
On Tue, 5 Jan 2016 12:27:31 -0800 jwsmobile wrote: > I wonder how it could take them three months to figure something out. > Maybe Chuck can comment. > > But over a year after they spent the 3 months. Hmmm. It will be > interesting to hear what was recovered, though from

Re: Floppy recovery

2016-01-05 Thread Warner Losh
Attempting to read floppies with the wrong kind of drive can also cause damage. Back in the day, people were all aflutter about drive rings and how having them or not having them caused damage when they read the floppy in a 'foreign' setting. There were rumors about head clearance and such also

Re: Floppy recovery

2016-01-05 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 01/05/2016 01:21 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: On Tue, 5 Jan 2016, Chuck Guzis wrote: Guess who Drivesavers sent the floppy images to for recovery? (Modesty forbids). But we've had a working relationship with them for a long time. Can you enlighten us as to what sort of system/disk format it was?

Re: Floppy recovery

2016-01-05 Thread Ethan Dicks
On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 4:27 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: >> Can you enlighten us as to what sort of system/disk format it was? > > IIRC, it was several, mostly Japanese. I'd have to go back to my notes from > some time back. The picture of the one remaining whitebox with the two

Re: Floppy recovery

2016-01-05 Thread John Robertson
On 01/05/2016 1:15 PM, Ali wrote: Anyone know anything about the custom computer and the custom OS? Nor implying anything but Chuck do u have any insights? ;) Didn't Scotty leave his laptop behind when they were saving the whales? John ;-#)#

Gene Roddenberry's floppy disks from the 1980s read

2016-01-05 Thread Thomas Dzubin
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/01/files-on-nearly-200-floppy-disks-belonging-to-star-trek-creator-recovered/

Re: Floppy recovery

2016-01-05 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 01/05/2016 03:00 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: NSA has done substantial serious research on that and other recovery. 1) if the alignment of the head of the original recording and of the overwrite head are not a perfect match, then there can be some residual data somewhat off axis. 2) if the data