Re: UNIBUS M9312 ROMS

2016-06-08 Thread Don North
On 6/8/2016 5:56 PM, Mike Ross wrote: On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 12:27 PM, John Robertson wrote: No way the M9312 can self modify, it is a burn once PROM - I kinda assumed it was a case of copying itself to RAM and self-modifying as it runs there - if it ever happened. Mike

Re: UNIBUS M9312 ROMS

2016-06-08 Thread Mike Ross
On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 12:27 PM, John Robertson wrote: > On 06/08/2016 3:46 PM, Jay West wrote: >> >> I wrote... >> On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 6:34 AM, Jay West wrote: >>> >>> 23-E39A9 is still lost to time, afaik. TMSCP - TU81 >> >> To which mike replied...

Re: UNIBUS M9312 ROMS

2016-06-08 Thread Paul Koning
> On Jun 8, 2016, at 6:46 PM, Jay West wrote: > > I wrote... > On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 6:34 AM, Jay West wrote: >> 23-E39A9 is still lost to time, afaik. TMSCP - TU81 > > To which mike replied... > > Could that not be reverse-engineered from the

Re: SunOS 4

2016-06-08 Thread Seth Morabito
* On Tue, Jun 07, 2016 at 10:32:09AM -0400, Bryan C. Everly wrote: > Hi, > > I have really fond memories of this operating system (from before the > SVR4 Solaris days). It was the first UNIX I used (and I'm still a big > BSD fan). > > (Not sure what the protocol is

Re: UNIBUS M9312 ROMS

2016-06-08 Thread John Robertson
On 06/08/2016 3:46 PM, Jay West wrote: I wrote... On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 6:34 AM, Jay West wrote: 23-E39A9 is still lost to time, afaik. TMSCP - TU81 To which mike replied... Could that not be reverse-engineered from the boot code in e.g. Emulex UC17 ROMs? They

RE: UNIBUS M9312 ROMS

2016-06-08 Thread Jay West
I wrote... On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 6:34 AM, Jay West wrote: > 23-E39A9 is still lost to time, afaik. TMSCP - TU81 To which mike replied... Could that not be reverse-engineered from the boot code in e.g. Emulex UC17 ROMs? They could do TMSCP... BTW what PROM blower

Re: UNIBUS M9312 ROMS

2016-06-08 Thread Mike Ross
On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 6:34 AM, Jay West wrote: > 23-E39A9 is still lost to time, afaik. TMSCP - TU81 Could that not be reverse-engineered from the boot code in e.g. Emulex UC17 ROMs? They could do TMSCP... BTW what PROM blower would folks recommend for creating/imaging

Re: IO Selectric

2016-06-08 Thread Chuck Guzis
I just did a quick check--the Yahoo golfballtypewritershop group does have the Louis Sander 1983 article from Micro magazine about converting an I/O selectric for general computer use. There's also a two parter on the I/O Selectric theory of operation. You should have enough there to keep you

Re: IO Selectric

2016-06-08 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 06/08/2016 02:11 PM, Dave Wade wrote: > > sorry for the long link. Does anyone have any suggestions as to > which manuals are appropriate, and which documentation was followed > to allow it to be used as a printer? Don't know if it'll help but the Yahoo group "golfballtypewritershop" does

IO Selectric

2016-06-08 Thread Dave Wade
Folks I have today collect a recent E-Bay purchase. It appears to be an IO Selectric that has been left in a garage for a long period of time and is very gummed up. It will turn over with the manual handle, and it appears to try and type, but the carriage does not advance. All the tapes and chords

Re: UNIBUS M9312 ROMS

2016-06-08 Thread Don North
On 6/8/2016 3:13 PM, Mike Ross wrote: On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 6:34 AM, Jay West wrote: 23-E39A9 is still lost to time, afaik. TMSCP - TU81 Could that not be reverse-engineered from the boot code in e.g. Emulex UC17 ROMs? They could do TMSCP... BTW what PROM blower would

Re: UNIBUS M9312 ROMS

2016-06-08 Thread Don North
On 6/8/2016 3:13 PM, Mike Ross wrote: On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 6:34 AM, Jay West wrote: 23-E39A9 is still lost to time, afaik. TMSCP - TU81 Could that not be reverse-engineered from the boot code in e.g. Emulex UC17 ROMs? They could do TMSCP... BTW what PROM blower would

Re: Big announcement tomorrow night

2016-06-08 Thread Mark J. Blair
> On Jun 8, 2016, at 09:34, Evan Koblentz wrote: > Give us a break, this is fundraising for a non-profit. I wasn't trying to be critical at all. I just didn't make the connection that the auction was the specific announcement that you were referring to. -- Mark J. Blair,

Updates to the Alpha Micro Phun Machine

2016-06-08 Thread Cameron Kaiser
For those of you not on vcfed, yes, this is a real, live Alpha Micro Eagle 300 with AlphaTCP serving you information on the unusual Alpha Micro 68K systems and their peculiar DEC-like operating system, AMOS. New in this iteration is a lot of link cleanup, some custodial edits and a number of new

Re: Set of mystery DEC boards: who can help me identifying these?

2016-06-08 Thread P Gebhardt
> I asked my DEC dealer friends, and they said the PN will be on the metal > handles. If you can provide those, then he can tell u what they went to. > > Cindy > Hi Cindy, thanks for your reply. I will look them up tomorrow as soon as I have access to the boards again. Cheers, Pierre

Re: thinking of the "ultimate" retro x86 PCs - what bits to seek/keep ?

2016-06-08 Thread Geoffrey Oltmans
If you're in the neighborhood of a DX2-66 IIRC, 486DX 50s with VLB were fairly desirable vs a 486DX2-66 if you got the right mix of VLB cards to use, since you could run the VLB cards faster.

Re: thinking of the "ultimate" retro x86 PCs - what bits to seek/keep ?

2016-06-08 Thread Geoffrey Oltmans
On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 6:16 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: > > 2.88M 3.5" floppies were a huge mistake (there were also 2.88M 5.25" > ones as well). The media was expensive (I think I paid nearly $50 for > box of 10 DSED floppies and the drives needed FDC support. That being > said,

IO Selectric

2016-06-08 Thread Dave Wade
Folks I have today collect a recent E-Bay purchase. It appears to be an IO Selectric that has been left in a garage for a long period of time and is very gummed up. It will turn over with the manual handle, and it appears to try and type, but the carriage does not advance. All the tapes and chords

Re: SunOS 4

2016-06-08 Thread Eric Christopherson
On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 3:06 PM, Josh Dersch wrote: > On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 1:04 PM, Josh Dersch wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 12:57 PM, Swift Griggs > > wrote: > > > >> On Wed, 8 Jun 2016, Plamen Mihaylov wrote: > >> > SunOS

Re: SunOS 4

2016-06-08 Thread Josh Dersch
On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 1:04 PM, Josh Dersch wrote: > On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 12:57 PM, Swift Griggs > wrote: > >> On Wed, 8 Jun 2016, Plamen Mihaylov wrote: >> > SunOS 4.1.4 sun4 iso image is available at >> >

Re: SunOS 4

2016-06-08 Thread Josh Dersch
On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 12:57 PM, Swift Griggs wrote: > On Wed, 8 Jun 2016, Plamen Mihaylov wrote: > > SunOS 4.1.4 sun4 iso image is available at > > https://winworldpc.com/download/3E59C28A-18DA-11E4-99E5-7054D21A8599 > > Methinks it's bogus. It's only 40.23MB in size on

Re: SunOS 4

2016-06-08 Thread Swift Griggs
On Wed, 8 Jun 2016, Plamen Mihaylov wrote: > SunOS 4.1.4 sun4 iso image is available at > https://winworldpc.com/download/3E59C28A-18DA-11E4-99E5-7054D21A8599 Methinks it's bogus. It's only 40.23MB in size on that site. I have the ISO on my file server at home and that's not even close: $ du -h

PS/2 luggables I noticed for sale in Denver

2016-06-08 Thread Swift Griggs
I saw some retro gear on CL today. 20Mhz 386 PS/2 lookin' thing http://denver.craigslist.org/sys/5589047344.html which is this: http://www.computinghistory.org.uk/det/30497/IBM-Model-8573-121/ And this one: http://denver.craigslist.org/sys/5589142407.html which is this:

RE: UNIBUS M9312 ROMS

2016-06-08 Thread Jay West
23-E39A9 is still lost to time, afaik. TMSCP - TU81 J

UNIBUS M9312 ROMS

2016-06-08 Thread william degnan
Posted an inventory of my M9312 ROMs http://www.vintagecomputer.net/browse_thread.cfm?id=638 b -- @ BillDeg: Web: vintagecomputer.net Twitter: @billdeg Youtube: @billdeg Unauthorized Bio

Re: UNIBUS M9312 ROMS

2016-06-08 Thread Al Kossow
decnet ethernet boot still MIA :-( On 6/8/16 11:24 AM, william degnan wrote: > Posted an inventory of my M9312 ROMs > > http://www.vintagecomputer.net/browse_thread.cfm?id=638 > > b >

Re: SunOS 4

2016-06-08 Thread Plamen Mihaylov
SunOS 4.1.4 sun4 iso image is available at https://winworldpc.com/download/3E59C28A-18DA-11E4-99E5-7054D21A8599 On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 4:08 PM, geneb wrote: > On Tue, 7 Jun 2016, Stefan Skoglund (lokal användare) wrote: > > tis 2016-06-07 klockan 10:55 -0700 skrev Chris

Re: Big announcement tomorrow night

2016-06-08 Thread Cameron Kaiser
> I seem to have missed the announcement in the noise, unless you were > referring to the Woz-signed Apple auction. Northern CA is nice, but it's > farther than I wish to drive. ;) I'll be up there. I think I'm in the same region as you. My wife is coming also. --

Re: thinking of the "ultimate" retro x86 PCs - what bits to seek/keep ?

2016-06-08 Thread Cameron Kaiser
> > Those were machines with 3.5" 720K as the only internal drives. > > Possibility of other kinds of drives externally. But, 3.5" 720K > > drives became available at that time (PC-DOS 3.20) as external drives > > and/or as internal for 5150/5160/5170. > > The first (intimate) contact I had with

RE: Set of mystery DEC boards: who can help me identifying these?

2016-06-08 Thread Electronics Plus
I asked my DEC dealer friends, and they said the PN will be on the metal handles. If you can provide those, then he can tell u what they went to. Cindy -Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of P Gebhardt Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 4:51 PM To:

Re: thinking of the "ultimate" retro x86 PCs - what bits to seek/keep ?

2016-06-08 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 06/08/2016 06:50 AM, Fred Cisin wrote: > Those were machines with 3.5" 720K as the only internal drives. > Possibility of other kinds of drives externally. But, 3.5" 720K > drives became available at that time (PC-DOS 3.20) as external drives > and/or as internal for 5150/5160/5170. The

Re: Big announcement tomorrow night

2016-06-08 Thread Evan Koblentz
I'm hoping for VCF Southern California. It's probably not VCF Southern California. Is it VCF Southern California? :) Read list your emails. :) It was not VCF Southern California. But northern California is nice too. I seem to have missed the announcement in the noise, unless you were

Re: Big announcement tomorrow night

2016-06-08 Thread Geoffrey Oltmans
On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 10:58 AM, Mark J. Blair wrote: > > > On Jun 8, 2016, at 08:39, Evan Koblentz wrote: > > > Read list your emails. :) It was not VCF Southern California. > > > > But northern California is nice too. > > I seem to have missed the

RE: Anyone with a Data General Eclipse S/230 out there?

2016-06-08 Thread Jay West
On 6/8/16 7:42 AM, Jay West wrote: > an FPS fp array processor. > To which AEK replied - I have the drawing set for this. It is a custom unit for GE CAT scanner image convolution. Ah ok. I just had noticed on the back of the device Floating Point Systems, and a model number -

Re: Big announcement tomorrow night

2016-06-08 Thread Mark J. Blair
> On Jun 8, 2016, at 08:39, Evan Koblentz wrote: >> I'm hoping for VCF Southern California. It's probably not VCF Southern >> California. Is it VCF Southern California? :) > > Read list your emails. :) It was not VCF Southern California. > > But northern California is nice

Re: Big announcement tomorrow night

2016-06-08 Thread Evan Koblentz
There's a big announcement happening from the Vintage Computer Federation tomorrow night. :) Stay tuned... How get 63 more bytes when running BASIC? Ducks! I'm hoping for VCF Southern California. It's probably not VCF Southern California. Is it VCF Southern California? :) Read list your

Re: Anyone with a Data General Eclipse S/230 out there?

2016-06-08 Thread Al Kossow
On 6/8/16 7:42 AM, Jay West wrote: > an FPS fp array processor. > I have the drawing set for this. It is a custom unit for GE CAT scanner image convolution.

Re: Big announcement tomorrow night

2016-06-08 Thread Mark J. Blair
> On Jun 7, 2016, at 15:56, ben wrote: > > On 6/6/2016 10:04 PM, Evan Koblentz wrote: >> There's a big announcement happening from the Vintage Computer >> Federation tomorrow night. :) >> >> Stay tuned... >> >> > > How get 63 more bytes when running BASIC? > Ducks!

RE: Anyone with a Data General Eclipse S/230 out there?

2016-06-08 Thread Jay West
Josh wrote... I just acquired a DG Eclipse S/230 in semi-decent condition. It's mostly complete with some fun peripherals in a gigantic rack. Josh - I've just been down that road recently. I have an S/130 that is pretty close to finished on the restoration front and I may have

Re: Restoring an RXV21 and/or an RX02

2016-06-08 Thread Rod Smallwood
On 08/06/2016 13:01, Jerome H. Fine wrote: >Rod Smallwood wrote: In my quest for a working RX02 I'm trying to find out the best way of checking out an RXV21 and get it talking to the RX02. I have most of the standard diagnostics including XXDP. The setup is an 11/83 with an RX50 and

Re: thinking of the "ultimate" retro x86 PCs - what bits to seek/keep ?

2016-06-08 Thread Fred Cisin
But AFAIK IBM never shipped machines with DS/DD/80t track drives as standard, did it? Of course they did. PS/2 8530. Oops. And the 5140 "Convertible". Interesting. I did not know that! Those were machines with 3.5" 720K as the only internal drives. Possibility of other kinds of drives

Re: SunOS 4

2016-06-08 Thread geneb
On Tue, 7 Jun 2016, Stefan Skoglund (lokal användare) wrote: tis 2016-06-07 klockan 10:55 -0700 skrev Chris Hanson: I know MemoryX in Santa Clara has at least recently had full boxed copies of SunOS 4.1.4 (aka Solaris 1.1.3) available for something like $99. I'm unaware of whether Sun SPARC

Re: Restoring an RXV21 and/or an RX02

2016-06-08 Thread Jerome H. Fine
>Rod Smallwood wrote: In my quest for a working RX02 I'm trying to find out the best way of checking out an RXV21 and get it talking to the RX02. I have most of the standard diagnostics including XXDP. The setup is an 11/83 with an RX50 and RD53. (I can boot from either) In the box is

Restoring an RXV21 and/or an RX02

2016-06-08 Thread Rod Smallwood
In my quest for a working RX02 I'm trying to find out the best way of checking out an RXV21 and get it talking to the RX02. I have most of the standard diagnostics including XXDP. The setup is an 11/83 with an RX50 and RD53. (I can boot from either) In the box is MSV11-J PMI

Re: TI Professional Computer (TIPC) Service Manual?

2016-06-08 Thread Martin Peters
Hi all! Martin Peters: (...) > We measure the additional diagnostic information on the onboard parallel > port and it turned out, it was a FDC interrupt failure. After replacing > the 1793 on the motherboard, the "** system error ** - 0004" message > was gone. \o/ > > Now, there is a "**

Re: thinking of the "ultimate" retro x86 PCs - what bits to seek/keep ?

2016-06-08 Thread Liam Proven
On 7 June 2016 at 02:19, r.stricklin wrote: > On Jun 6, 2016, at 5:17 PM, r.stricklin wrote: > >> On Jun 6, 2016, at 8:28 AM, Liam Proven wrote: >> >>> But AFAIK IBM never shipped machines with DS/DD/80t track drives as >>> standard, did it? >> >> Of course they did. PS/2