EPROM baking

2017-12-13 Thread Mark G Thomas via cctalk
Hi, I am working on several projects requiring 2708 and 2716 EPROMs, and am finding some of my chips will not erase, and some will not take a program. I've also learned more in the past week than I wanted to know about repairing Data-I/O 29a/b programmers. I vaguely remember in the 1990s baking

Re: EPROM baking

2017-12-13 Thread william degnan via cctalk
On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 9:08 AM, Mark G Thomas via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Hi, > > I am working on several projects requiring 2708 and 2716 EPROMs, and > am finding some of my chips will not erase, and some will not take > a program. I've also learned more in the past week than I

Re: EPROM baking

2017-12-13 Thread dwight via cctalk
When I was at Intel, years ago, I recall the baking was only to repair the retention of the EPROMs. It was not to fix random failures. It sounds like your EPROMs have various failures that wouldn't be helped by baking. Each time the EPROM is programmed, there is a slight increase in the leakage

Re: EPROM baking

2017-12-13 Thread Holm Tiffe via cctalk
Hmm..I've read about that baking in conjunction with 1702A too..but don't remember the source of that discussion. I know that ppl suggested it for proms that would'nt program correctly... Regards, Holm dwight via cctalk wrote: > When I was at Intel, years ago, I recall the baking was only to re

RE: EPROM baking

2017-12-13 Thread Dave Wade via cctalk
-Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Mark G > Thomas via cctalk > Sent: 13 December 2017 14:09 > To: CCtalk > Subject: EPROM baking > > Hi, > > I am working on several projects requiring 2708 and 2716 EPROMs, and am > finding some of my c

Re: EPROM baking

2017-12-13 Thread Michael Zahorik via cctalk
My homemade 8080 CPM machine used a number of 2708 and 2716 EPROMs. that was 40 years ago. This machine is still running and I use it, but since I had trouble with the EPROMs, I switched to EEPROMs. I would also be interested in hearing about whether or not baking would work and how to do the ba

Re: EPROM baking

2017-12-13 Thread systems_glitch via cctalk
The only "baking" I've heard about with EPROMs was *annealing* on the original prototypes from Intel. I want to say that was before they figured out UV erasure and were zapping the things with X-rays for erasure. You won't be doing any EPROM annealing in a home oven :) It's been my experience that

Re: EPROM baking

2017-12-13 Thread systems_glitch via cctalk
Oh, and make sure the quartz window is clean :) I've had sticker residue result in some bits not erasing. Thanks, Jonathan On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 12:18 PM, systems_glitch wrote: > The only "baking" I've heard about with EPROMs was *annealing* on the > original prototypes from Intel. I want to

11/04 Project

2017-12-13 Thread John Welch via cctalk
I am back in front of the machine: The M7856 is set thusly:     1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- S5 DN DN DN UP DN DN UP DN DN UP S3 DN DN UP DN UP UP DN UP DN UP S1 UP UP DN UP DN DN UP UP DN UP S4 UP UP DN DN UP UP DN DN DN UP S2 DN DN UP DN DN UP DN DN -- -- The M

RE: 11/04 Project

2017-12-13 Thread Henk Gooijen via cctalk
Jumping over the settings. They seem OK, as you get the AB in Hyperterm. That 777564 shows 000200 is also correct (as I remember that): it indicates “transmit buffer empty”. You can also try it the other way: * type one character in Hyperterm * check that 777560 has the receiver buffer

Looking for a book on LAN Manager

2017-12-13 Thread Ali via cctalk
Hello All, I am looking for a copy of: Troubleshooting LAN Manager 2 PDF by Michael Publication date: 10/01/1993 ISBN:155851161X ISBN13: 9781558511613 I've looked the usual areas and can't find a reasonably priced copy. There was one on epay for $10 but the day I marked it to watch suddenly

Re: 11/04 Project

2017-12-13 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: John Welch > Any thoughts? Concur 100% with Henk's comments. There is a manual online for the M9312: http://bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/unibus/M9312_TechRef.pdf which will tell you what the other start options are (Appendix C), but see page 3-1, too. Note especially the bit about h

Kennedy 9832 tape drive ( eBay 302562153660)

2017-12-13 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
This one has me scratching my head. eBay Item 302562153660 Sure, it's a Kennedy 9832 drive mounted in some sort of giant hard case. Anyone know if this was a modified drive? What on earth would it be used for? --Chuck

RE: Looking for AMP / TE coaxial connectors - Memorex 651 drive

2017-12-13 Thread Tom Gardner via cctalk
Personally I can’t recommend any company selling used parts stripped from surplus equipment but I recall several being discussed in this thread. My recollection in the 2311 and 2314 class disk drives from IBM, Memorex, ISS (sold by Itel and Telex), Calcomp, CDC, Ampex, etc all used M series f

Re: Kennedy 9832 tape drive ( eBay 302562153660)

2017-12-13 Thread ANDY HOLT via cctalk
eBay Item 302562153660 Sure, it's a Kennedy 9832 drive mounted in some sort of giant hard case. Anyone know if this was a modified drive? What on earth would it be used for? --Chuck Can't see this item, ut Tape drives in flight cases (which I assume is described) are normally data

Re: Kennedy 9832 tape drive ( eBay 302562153660)

2017-12-13 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 12/13/2017 02:49 PM, ANDY HOLT wrote: > > eBay Item 302562153660 > > > Can't see this item, ut > Tape drives in flight cases (which I assume is described) are normally data > loggers or part thereof. URL: https://goo.gl/LWshxS Yup it's a big NASA flight case. 8 BNC connectors. What w

Re: Kennedy 9832 tape drive ( eBay 302562153660)

2017-12-13 Thread ben via cctalk
On 12/13/2017 4:22 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: On 12/13/2017 02:49 PM, ANDY HOLT wrote: eBay Item 302562153660 Can't see this item, ut Tape drives in flight cases (which I assume is described) are normally data loggers or part thereof. URL: https://goo.gl/LWshxS Yup it's a big

Re: 11/04 Project

2017-12-13 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: John Welch > Anyway, 'a' comes over as 000141 and 'A' comes over as 000101. Good, the console is working. > CLR > LAD > DEP OK, that loads a '0' (halt) in 0. > CNTRL+INIT > CNTRL+START -> reads 02 OK, so it reads the HALT at 0 and stops. > CNTRL+

Re: Kennedy 9832 tape drive ( eBay 302562153660)

2017-12-13 Thread Anders Nelson via cctalk
Looks like it has the controller built in... 800bpi though, wah waah. =] -- Anders Nelson +1 (517) 775-6129 www.erogear.com On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 8:33 PM, ben via cctalk wrote: > On 12/13/2017 4:22 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > >> On 12/13/2017 02:49 PM, ANDY HOLT wrote: >> >>> >>> e

APE emulator

2017-12-13 Thread Richard Cini via cctalk
All –     I can’t remember who contacted me originally about potential enhancements to the APE (Altair Peripheral Emulator) that I have mirrored at ape.classiccmp.net. I heard from Frank Barberis and he mentioned that he’d be willing to make enhancements to the software if ther

Re: 11/04 Project

2017-12-13 Thread Jerry Weiss via cctalk
According to the documentation EK-M9312-TM-002 M9312 Bootstrap-Terminator Module Technical Manual there are two addresses to use for the Console Emulator. 165020 (765020) for Console with Diagnostics SW 1 and 7 on 165144 (765144) for Console w/o Diagnostics SW 1,5,6,9 on The switch settings

Re: 11/04 Project

2017-12-13 Thread John Welch via cctalk
I have bi-directional communication from PC/Hyperterminal.   I forgot about having to tell HyperTerminal to echo characters locally. Anyway, 'a' comes over as 000141 and 'A' comes over as 000101. So far so good. However, I have not gotten "@" CNTRL+HLT CLR LAD DEP CNTRL+INIT CNTRL+START -> reads

Re: 11/04 Project

2017-12-13 Thread JCWelch via cctalk
I am much confused as to how to connect TP1, TP2, TP3, & TP4. there is a wire coming in with spade lugs. One wire is red, one clear, and one black. Just to be share which color goes to which TP lug? Sent from my iPad On Dec 13, 2017, at 8:37 PM, John Welch wrote: I have bi-directional communi

Re: 11/04 Project

2017-12-13 Thread JCWelch via cctalk
So far nothing puts ‘@‘, or anything on the screen. Sent from my iPad On Dec 13, 2017, at 10:05 PM, Jerry Weiss wrote: According to the documentation EK-M9312-TM-002 M9312 Bootstrap-Terminator Module Technical Manual there are two addresses to use for the Console Emulator. 165020 (765020) fo

Re: 11/04 Project

2017-12-13 Thread John Welch via cctalk
On 12/13/2017 10:41 PM, Jerry Weiss wrote: What is the configuration of jumpers? I have tried the following:     1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8   9   10    --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- S1 Off On  Off Off Off Off Off Off On  Off S1 On  On  Off Off Off Off On  Off Off Off S1 On  On  Off

Re: 11/04 Project

2017-12-13 Thread JCWelch via cctalk
CLR 765000 LAD EXAM ‘Bus Err’ light comes on. CLR 765020 LAD CNTRL+START Display changes to 165020 Nothing on the terminal. Do you know which color wire (red, clear, black) goes to which festoon connector (TP1, TP2, TP3, TP4)? Don’t want to blow anything up. Sent from my iPad > On Dec