RE: Non-Yahoo MTS Mailing Lists

2017-12-30 Thread Dave Wade via cctalk
Lyndon, Seeing as the folks who set up the original distribution are on the Yahoo list it's the best place to ask questions. I assume you don't want to set up a Yahoo account? Facebook perhaps? Dave (I think I own the yahoo H390-MTS group but its been quiet for ages) > -Original

Re: Computing from 1976

2017-12-30 Thread ben via cctalk
On 12/30/2017 8:13 PM, Ed via cctalk wrote: so if you bought the altair and put it away you could sort of sell it for the same amount of money-worth today. Unmarked bills of course. :) The Lucky One's had timesharing on BIG machines with 32+ K of memory. Ben.

Re: Computing from 1976

2017-12-30 Thread Ed via cctalk
so if you bought the altair and put it away you could sort of sell it for the same amount of money-worth today. In a message dated 12/30/2017 5:10:22 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk@classiccmp.org writes: It was thus said that the Great Fred Cisin via cctalk once stated: >

Re: Non-Yahoo MTS Mailing Lists

2017-12-30 Thread Adrian Stoness via cctalk
o neat On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 8:58 PM, Brent Hilpert via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On 2017-Dec-30, at 6:26 PM, Adrian Stoness via cctalk wrote: > > > mts??? > > > > as in manitoba telcome services now known as bellmts?? > > > > No, Michigan Terminal System. > > A timesharing

Re: Computing from 1976

2017-12-30 Thread Ed via cctalk
Thanks for the heads up on this S-100 site! PdP-11 on a s-100 bus even.. Ed# In a message dated 12/30/2017 5:01:26 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk@classiccmp.org writes: A good site for what was in the 1975-1980 era. http://www.s100computers.com/index.html

Re: Computing from 1976

2017-12-30 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 12/30/2017 07:43 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: On Sat, 30 Dec 2017, ben via cctalk wrote: I find I want use computers less , 5+ minutes to boot something that then needs to check the net. I use a all valve audio system and tubes are warmed up and ready to go before my music app exits

Re: Non-Yahoo MTS Mailing Lists

2017-12-30 Thread Brent Hilpert via cctalk
On 2017-Dec-30, at 6:26 PM, Adrian Stoness via cctalk wrote: > mts??? > > as in manitoba telcome services now known as bellmts?? No, Michigan Terminal System. A timesharing system for IBM 360/370 series mainframes, used and maintained at a number of universities from the late 60s through

Restoring MTS *FS distribution tapes onto a UNIX system

2017-12-30 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg via cctalk
The answer to my previous question lives in the source code. The D6.0A MTS distribution doesn't have the source on disk, so the files need to be extracted from the *FS tapes. On an MTS system, that's a pain in the ass. Given the DRIVER file from the distribution, has anyone tried extracting

Re: Non-Yahoo MTS Mailing Lists

2017-12-30 Thread Adrian Stoness via cctalk
mts??? as in manitoba telcome services now known as bellmts??

Non-Yahoo MTS Mailing Lists

2017-12-30 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg via cctalk
Are any of you aware of an MTS mailing list that lives outside of the execrable Yahoo groups environment? And if not, is there any interest in starting one? Meanwhile, if there are any MTS hacks on the list, I have a question: When running *SAV or *SVW, what are the labels the system is

Re: Computing from 1976

2017-12-30 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Dec 30, 2017, at 5:55 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk > wrote: > > ... > "Moore's Law", which was a prediction, not a "LAW", has often been mis-stated > as predicting a doubling of speed/capacity every 18 months. True, but that applies also to any "law of nature".

Re: Computing from 1976

2017-12-30 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Sat, 30 Dec 2017, ben via cctalk wrote: I find I want use computers less , 5+ minutes to boot something that then needs to check the net. I use a all valve audio system and tubes are warmed up and ready to go before my music app exits the splash screen. The "modern" computer is much

Re: Computing from 1976

2017-12-30 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Sat, 30 Dec 2017, Adrian Stoness via cctalk wrote: theres some mid 70's insturmentation magizines and industrial computer magizines i inherited with a house i bought this yr full of neat stuff i think theres even some blips of these macheans discused in one of them In those days, they

Re: Computing from 1976

2017-12-30 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Sat, 30 Dec 2017, Sean Conner wrote: 4K should (had we truly doubed everything every 18 months) now be 1T (terrabyte): 2) What did Gordon Moore actually say in 1965? That the number of transistors in an integrated circuit double every 18 months. 3) How much is $500 of 1976 money

Re: Computing from 1976

2017-12-30 Thread Sean Conner via cctalk
It was thus said that the Great Fred Cisin via cctalk once stated: > On Sat, 30 Dec 2017, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote: > >I was perusing my old computer magazine collection the other day and > >came across an article entitled: “Fast-Growing new hobby, Real > >Computers you assemble

Re: Computing from 1976

2017-12-30 Thread ben via cctalk
On 12/30/2017 3:55 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: On Sat, 30 Dec 2017, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote: I was perusing my old computer magazine collection the other day and came across an article entitled: “Fast-Growing new hobby, Real Computers you assemble yourself”, Dec. 1976. It was

Re: Computing from 1976

2017-12-30 Thread Adrian Stoness via cctalk
theres some mid 70's insturmentation magizines and industrial computer magizines i inherited with a house i bought this yr full of neat stuff i think theres even some blips of these macheans discused in one of them On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 4:57 PM, william degnan via cctalk <

Re: Computing from 1976

2017-12-30 Thread Nigel Williams via cctalk
On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 9:57 AM, william degnan via cctalk wrote: > what magazine? https://books.google.com.au/books?id=7wAAMBAJ=PA82 Popular Science Dec-1976

Re: Computing from 1976

2017-12-30 Thread william degnan via cctalk
On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 5:21 PM, Murray McCullough via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > I was perusing my old computer magazine collection the other day and > came across an article entitled: “Fast-Growing new hobby, Real > Computers you assemble yourself”, Dec. 1976. > > what magazine? b

Re: Computing from 1976

2017-12-30 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Sat, 30 Dec 2017, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote: I was perusing my old computer magazine collection the other day and came across an article entitled: “Fast-Growing new hobby, Real Computers you assemble yourself”, Dec. 1976. It was about MITS, Sphere, IMSAI and SWT. 4K memory was $500.

Computing from 1976

2017-12-30 Thread Murray McCullough via cctalk
I was perusing my old computer magazine collection the other day and came across an article entitled: “Fast-Growing new hobby, Real Computers you assemble yourself”, Dec. 1976. It was about MITS, Sphere, IMSAI and SWT. 4K memory was $500. Yikes! Even more here in Canada. Now this is true Classic