Re: Intel 3000 series

2018-05-04 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 05/04/2018 08:36 PM, dwight via cctalk wrote: > As Allison says, some other controller would be a lot easier to deal > with. The 3000 controller was intended for speed. > > I knew the fellow that wrote the code for the M2FM controller while > at Intel ( Lou Bolardo sp? ). He was not my kind

Re: Intel 3000 series

2018-05-04 Thread dwight via cctalk
As Allison says, some other controller would be a lot easier to deal with. The 3000 controller was intended for speed. I knew the fellow that wrote the code for the M2FM controller while at Intel ( Lou Bolardo sp? ). He was not my kind of person ( we never got along ) but he was one of the

Re: Intel 3000 series

2018-05-04 Thread Kyle Owen via cctalk
On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 8:16 PM, dwight via cctalk wrote: > I'm not sure how much good a 2900 assembler would be for a 3000 series > part. The 2900 has an address controller more like a typical micro > computer, while the 3000 is more like playing a game of chess. > I can

Re: Intel 3000 series

2018-05-04 Thread allison via cctalk
On 05/04/2018 09:16 PM, dwight via cctalk wrote: > I'm not sure how much good a 2900 assembler would be for a 3000 series part. > The 2900 has an address controller more like a typical micro computer, while > the 3000 is more like playing a game of chess. There seems to be the presumption the

Re: Intel 3000 series

2018-05-04 Thread dwight via cctalk
I'm not sure how much good a 2900 assembler would be for a 3000 series part. The 2900 has an address controller more like a typical micro computer, while the 3000 is more like playing a game of chess. Of course, you can always use 3000 series alu's with a 2900 series address controller ( 2910

Re: Intel 3000 series

2018-05-04 Thread Eric Smith via cctalk
On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 2:10 PM, Kyle Owen wrote: > I assume it's one of these? http://www.bitsavers.org/bits/AMD/AM29/ > Any tips on how to get it running in SimH or the like? I don't see any text > file describing the system or format. > Should be in there somewhere. The

Re: Intel 3000 series

2018-05-04 Thread Kyle Owen via cctalk
On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 2:47 PM, Eric Smith wrote: > > Signetics also had a microassembler for the 3000 series, "Signetics Micro > Assembler", also written in FORTRAN, and not compatible with CROMIS. > Well, maybe that'll turn up if CROMIS doesn't. > > If CROMIS doesn't

Re: Intel 3000 series

2018-05-04 Thread Eric Smith via cctalk
On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 8:49 AM, Kyle Owen via cctalk wrote: > Does anyone have any software for developing for the Intel 3000 series? I > bought some parts on eBay and am contemplating a bit-slice PDP-8 or DG Nova > for fun. > > Bitsavers has some 3000 series manuals, but

Intel 3000 series

2018-05-04 Thread Kyle Owen via cctalk
Does anyone have any software for developing for the Intel 3000 series? I bought some parts on eBay and am contemplating a bit-slice PDP-8 or DG Nova for fun. Bitsavers has some 3000 series manuals, but I can't seem to find any "bits" of software. Looks like CROMIS is the cross microprogram

Re: DEC Mouse replacement

2018-05-04 Thread Douglas Taylor via cctalk
I had run into those bits on the web and also a ps2 driver for the arduino on github. The protocols are similar for the PS2 mouse and the DEC mouse, 3 bytes encoded with movement data. Generic PS/2 Mouse Packet Bits BYTE    7    6    5    4    3    2    1    0 0    yo    xo    ys    xs    ao   

Re: DEC Mouse replacement

2018-05-04 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 7:14 AM, Dave Wade via cctalk wrote: > > > > -Original Message- > > From: cctalk On Behalf Of Bill > Gunshannon > > via cctalk > > Sent: 04 May 2018 12:57 > > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > > Subject: Re: DEC

RE: DEC Mouse replacement

2018-05-04 Thread Dave Wade via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk On Behalf Of Bill Gunshannon > via cctalk > Sent: 04 May 2018 12:57 > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: DEC Mouse replacement > > > > On 05/03/2018 09:38 PM, Douglas Taylor via cctalk wrote: > > I would like to

Re: DEC Mouse replacement

2018-05-04 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 05/03/2018 10:14 PM, Ed Sharpe via cctalk wrote: > how abut forgethe the adreno... chop connector off. rewire a ps2 mouse and > just use it? > > I really don't think it is that easy.  Knowing how IBM tried to control the market I doubt there is anything beyond basic similarity in the

Re: DEC Mouse replacement

2018-05-04 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 05/03/2018 10:06 PM, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: > On Thu, May 3, 2018, 9:38 PM Douglas Taylor via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > >> I would like to have a couple more DEC Mice for some Vaxestations I >> have, but they seem to be pretty rare. At present I only have one mouse >>

Re: DEC Mouse replacement

2018-05-04 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 05/03/2018 09:38 PM, Douglas Taylor via cctalk wrote: > I would like to have a couple more DEC Mice for some Vaxestations I > have, but they seem to be pretty rare.  At present I only have one > mouse and I move it from machine to machine. > > The protocols for the DEC mice and the standard

RE: DEC Mouse replacement

2018-05-04 Thread mark--- via cctalk
The Linux Kernel has support for DEC VSXXX mouse (as well as LK keyboards), the opposite of what you are interested in. So the conversion from DEC protocol is well documented. It would be fairly straightforward with a microcontroller to implement the reverse. See: